georgec
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Just a simple manSupposedly set 15 years after ROTJ, serving as a precursor to the new film trilogy. Thoughts?
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timdiggerm
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But again, that's if it's even real.
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!Why do only half the pages have hole punches in them? This "leak" is so 1980's. ;)
Heilemann
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Just another officer transported to MarsThe holes are outside the shot, compare the width of the paper.
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Essays, videos and snippets on the influences that helped shape Star Wars.
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!This still looks like the fake script treatments I used to see floating around conventions many moons ago.
georgec
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Just a simple manI like the ideas, but I doubt it's authentic.
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Fang Zei
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I am ready for the trials!If not fake, definite proof that Lucas & Co. were planning on Episode VII before the Disney buy and that they won't just be not-using the existing EU for the ST, but will be downright contradicting/overwriting it.
Which has been my concern all along. I have zero problem with them basically "ignoring" the EU and just picking up 45 years or so after the original. Downright rebooting it would be a weird move though, even considering all the continuity shenanigans Lucasfilm pulled with TCW.
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!Why 45 years though? It's only been thirty since ROTJ came out. Let's not make our heroes older than they are already! ;)
ATMachine
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Anyone else reading the character info for "The Shade" (that is, surely, Luke Skywalker) and get serious flashbacks to the Preacher (the blind hermit Paul Atreides) in Children of Dune?
Maybe this IS legit--after all, Lucas never could stop cribbing from Herbert. Anakin's turn to the dark side for Padme's sake in the recut version of ROTS has the imprint of Dune Messiah all over it.
NeverarGreat
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Once upon a time there was a Star Wars trilogy. Now there is apocrypha.This looks fake. I don't know the industry standard for format and tone of a show treatment, but I can't imagine that this is real, as it has some amateurish bits leaking through (OUR story instead of THE story, the fact that it's dated which instantly makes the story "old" in the eyes of producers, saying that the "entire galaxy is fair game").
On to the substance of the treatment, it makes little sense to alienate a large portion of the Star Wars fanbase by rewriting EU history. I could understand it if the changes to the galaxy are massive, like the Empire immediately returning after Endor and crushing the rebellion, but as it is, it doesn't seem all that much different than the EU. The presumed conflict of the galaxy against whatever exists in the bowels of Coruscant seems too much like the live action Star Wars series which keeps not happening, as far as the focus on Coruscant is concerned.
In short, pointless and fake. Good try though.
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Maybe wrote by a fan of the Batman universe:
"Rath Zel-Quul" sounds a lot like "Ra's al Ghul"
Bester
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StarkillerThe fact that theforce.net has not been hit with a 'cease and desist' from Disney speaks volumes.
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TheBoost
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Better a bad bomb than a bombadI don't buy it.
"Reclamation" is the worst title ever. Even as a working title. No. No way.
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!Yeah, it does conjure up images of a recycling plant run by Ugnauhts or something. ;)
Darth Bizarro
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Mmmmmeeeeeeeoooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwww!I wouldn't be disappointed if this was the direction they went. No mention of Han Solo or Luke Skywalker (at least directly), possible Lux/Ahsoka offspring in the lead, the idea that the Jedi aren't openly well received in the New Republic. Solid stuff.
I really hope they don't feel the need to stick with the EU while doing these sequels and spin offs. I want some surprises in my ST. The EU was always hindered by the fact that they couldn't do anything too radical with the characters, preventing them taking any real risks that would keep them compelling. By starting out with that as their template, they are seriously hindering their ability to create a story that really surprises the audience. Han and Leia get marries, Luke meets someone, they all have kids, Luke builds a new Jedi Order, the Republic is rebuilt, these are all pretty much gimmes if you watched the end of Return of the Jedi. This is pretty much exactly what fans would expect to transpire with the characters following Jedi. If everything we see in Episode VII just pans out exactly the same way we all knew it was going to then that isn't interesting.
The old EU has it's place in Star Wars history, but as far as I'm concerned, they should just allow the the current line of books to be given a proper finale to their story lines (which Crucible and Sword of the Jedi might be looking to do) and push them back down the continuity line. They did the same thing with the Marvel series and people still find enjoyment there. Maybe then they can find places to incorporate elements from the books into the new EU, just like they did with Marvel.
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georgec
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Just a simple manNeverarGreat said:
This looks fake. I don't know the industry standard for format and tone of a show treatment, but I can't imagine that this is real, as it has some amateurish bits leaking through (OUR story instead of THE story, the fact that it's dated which instantly makes the story "old" in the eyes of producers, saying that the "entire galaxy is fair game").
On to the substance of the treatment, it makes little sense to alienate a large portion of the Star Wars fanbase by rewriting EU history. I could understand it if the changes to the galaxy are massive, like the Empire immediately returning after Endor and crushing the rebellion, but as it is, it doesn't seem all that much different than the EU. The presumed conflict of the galaxy against whatever exists in the bowels of Coruscant seems too much like the live action Star Wars series which keeps not happening, as far as the focus on Coruscant is concerned.
In short, pointless and fake. Good try though.
It seemed like Kennedy, Lucas, Abrams, Arndt, and whoever else have more or less made it clear that the new trilogy will pretty much be new material that disregards the EU. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember hearing and reading this repeatedly in articles/interviews.
Regarding the name, I would guess "Reclamation" is just a working title in the case this is authentic. I don't think this is entirely fake based on having feelings for a long time that in wrapping up TCW, Lucas was already thinking about "rebooting" the series. As in, launching a new sandbox to create more movies and shows, for which the obvious choice was always Eps 7-9. The prequel/Clone Wars era has pretty much been milked dry. The Old Republic stuff has also been done or is currently being done.
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darth_ender
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTAs much as I enjoy some (a rather limited quantity) of the EU, I really hope you are right and that the ST is not limited by it. Star Wars has completely dried itself up in my mind, thanks to the EU, and unless it simply disregards most of it, I can't see a very creative or interesting ST.
But just think of how mad some fans will be. And just think about how the books will quickly drop in sales. They will become fun diversionary tales, much like the Trek novels, but otherwise non-canonical.
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
Fang Zei
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I am ready for the trials!SilverWook said:
Why 45 years though? It's only been thirty since ROTJ came out. Let's not make our heroes older than they are already! ;)
45 years since the original 1977 film, which is where the books are up to now. Sorry, should've specified. It will have been 38 years since principal photography on Star Wars when Episode VII starts shooting next year. They'd only be bumping things up a few more years.
Also, keep in mind that while there are three years between A New Hope and Empire, Jedi only takes place another year later. They didn't spend three years flying around the galaxy like Mort/Lando said they should in the Family Guy parody of Empire.
Anyway, I don't see Lucasfilm rebooting the post-Jedi EU. It would be much cleaner and more natural to just set the original story of Episode VII whenever they're at now in the books.
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Ce n'est pas DuracellEnergizerI hope the ST contradicts the EU big time, and for no other reason than to see the heads on those smarmy EU completeists spin.
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Better a bad bomb than a bombaddarth_ender said:
As much as I enjoy some (a rather limited quantity) of the EU, I really hope you are right and that the ST is not limited by it.
I just can't imagine JJ Abrhams, Disney execs, Lawrence Kasdan, and Kathleen Kenedy sitting around coming up with ideas, and in the corner is some intern on Wookiieepedia saying "Nope. That idea contradicts "Glove of Darth Vader."
darth_ender
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFT^^Yes, exactly.
^You're probably right. I know TCW disregarded a number of elements (heck, it even contradicted the PT a bit, at least in spirit, by having Dooku and Anakin face each other multiple times between II and III, though it was implied that such was their second encounter). I guess I hope it's not just minor contradictions either, like Glove of Darth Vader. Chewie is dead, Anakin and Jacen Solo are dead, Luke got married and is now widowed...I'm not sure I like this sort of thing, and I want them to go away completely.
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
DuracellEnergizer
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Ce n'est pas DuracellEnergizerdarth_ender said:
I know TCW disregarded a number of elements (heck, it even contradicted the PT a bit, at least in spirit, by having Dooku and Anakin face each other multiple times between II and III, though it was implied that such was their second encounter).
God doesn't think in terms of black or white - or even shades of gray - but in big, bright, bold hues of blue and orange.
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!Chewie's death was about the only time I can recall the EU got any major media coverage, since a lot of fans were plenty pissed, (even those who didn't read the books) and some went a little nutty.
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Magister Pontifex MaximusDuracellEnergizer said:
I hope the ST contradicts the EU big time, and for no other reason than to see the heads on those smarmy EU completeists spin.
^THAT!
TK-949
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Advanced Padawan LearnerI just read the title "Star Wars: Reclamation" and thought: "Is this about kids bringing their broken Star Wars toys back to the store?"
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