dark_jedi said:

OK I have a 2 sided ESB with number 1425-80 manufactured and printed in the USA.

Time compressed

dark_jedi said:
also have 5 sided ESB with number 1425-84 manufactured and printed in the USA.

That's the one.
(Other one says "MANUFACTURED IN JAPAN, PRINTED IN USA" on disc labels.)
So your earlier rip is valid. By that I mean 'believed to be theatrical.'

dark_jedi said:
it slowly drifts, and by the end it is waaaay out, so I assume I will have to rip from the LD.

You'd get the same result, I reckon...

Darth Editous said:
Anyway, sounds like the LD might be time compressed

Not time compressed.
It's a different telecine, maybe different print. Frames missing around reel changes and whatnot.
Fewer total frames than GOUT is why it drifts out of sync.
[I'd begun to document missing frames...got thru side 3 as I recall, but haven't touched it in a long while.]

dark_jedi said:
for Jedi I have,
3 sided(weird this has less sides than ESB)

CLV vs. CAV

dark_jedi said:
also if this is anything I found Star Wars # 1130-84

Scored that one still in shrink wrap unopened, for a sawbuck! No need to bust it out though, since Belbucus has done a 'wizard' job already.