Ben and Tarkin had roles on par with Vader and Palpatine per film in the OT (I'm sure none could run a piece of code to bring up the stats).

I would like a female character to be the lead in these and be up against a female villain.

It would give us a taste of what Starkiller/the other would have been like for a draft or so and it would be something significantly different while tied into what we already know.

Willow wasn't hurt by having a villainess and I think Carrie could pull it off with style.

Jaitea said:

Theres a difference between the brains & the brawn in the film, sure Tarkin is the man 'holding Vaders leash', the guy who has the final say in the film, but Vader is the Villain, sorry....thats the fact

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Sure it is a fact that Vader is a villain. But the fact is also that Tarkin is a villain. The only thing in question is who is the main villain in the film. Considering Tarkin being the "boss" of the bad guys in this film and that he does far more evil things than Vader I would be safe to assume he is the main villain.

I wonder if they'll go the Mara Jade route. That would be so interesting to see in a movie, and it would give Luke external and internal conflicts.

Didn't Lucas say that the Sith perished after the death of Emperor and Vader? And the expanded universe had to come up with "dark jedi" enemies since they couldn't use Sith any more.

Re-posting this from the Disney thread...

AntcuFaalb said:

I'd prefer to get away from the Jedi vs. X type of story. Why can't the Jedi Order come back into existence without having to defend itself from being wiped out?

Instead, I'd really like another JabbaTheHutt-like character to be the main "villain".

I'd like to see Jedi & friends traipsing through underground dens of vile gangsters, reestablishing themselves as keepers of peace.

Most of all, I'd like some subtle humor and lightheartedness, a good character-driven story, and a sense that the movie doesn't take itself too seriously (whatever the hell that means).

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Also, real puppets, please.

Opinions?

SilverWook said:

The Clone Wars has established there are a lot of Hutts.  Would be interesting to see a young agile Hutt who is more "hands on" in their misdeeds.

Well, I didn't mean a Hutt, exactly. I'd be happy with some alien gangster weirdo.

I think the Hutts would be really cool to see.  I find it an interesting thought that they were so powerful as to be outside the jurisdiction of the Old and New Republics and the Empire.  But I also like the idea of a cult surrounding the Vader persona.

I'd like to share my honest thoughts on the Light vs. Dark Side, and if they do go Jedi against Sith/Dark Jedi route, I hope they do this right.  One thing that has driven me crazy in Star Wars from the PT, nearly all EU, fan lore, and even the OT, is that the Jedi are morons and the bad guys are always stronger.  Yoda said that the Dark Side was "quicker, easier, more seductive," but not stronger.  I feel this has seldom if ever been capitalized upon well (though I admit to not being as well versed in the EU anymore).

In an analogy to boxing, a fighter who gives in to rage and aggression can be quite powerful and intimidating, overpowering an unprepared adversary.  But the fighter who is calm, controlled, and focused will triumph in spite of his less offensive strategy.  The Force encompasses the spiritual as well as the physical, and I think the same applies, or at least should.  But thus far we've yet to see much of it, and the good guys only seem to win on luck or when they succumb to the Dark.  Anakin defeats Dooku and Ventriss in anger.  Luke defeats Vader in anger.  And otherwise the Jedi are defeated left and right by Force-less enemies (Grievous) or are too stupid and weak to stand up to Dark Side users effectively.

In my ideal ST, whatever evil is ultimately faced, I hope Luke faces it.  And I hope that when he does, he does so as an absolute master: controlled, calm, at peace, and more powerful than any emotionally-driven enemy.  To me that would show that the Light Side is truly stronger, and it would be a true victory for Light.

Yeah, I was having some similar thoughts...not that they were one and the same, but maybe one as a lesser version of the other.

SilverWook said:

I'd be willing to bet the first teaser we get has a shot of Mark taking his hood off ala Sir Alec in SW. And audiences will go crazy. ;)

Agreed!

I think today's older Carrie Fisher as Leia could make an awesome villain.

So it looks like we finally have a synopsis.

It's an interesting direction to go, and I, for one, am pretty hyped for it. Wookieepedia is already altering the wiki to reflect the new direction.

Thoughts?

LOL.

Tyrphanax said:

So it looks like we finally have a synopsis.

 

Thoughts?

Well, if it wasn't April 1st, I'd be a bit worried. As it is April 1st, I'm laughin.

Love the caption under the picture of the enterprise and the x-wing with the big lens flare : "The Enterprise meets Skywalker's X-wing. (Though just a concept composite, the director insisted on certain visual elements being added to this image.)"

Funny stuff!

AntcuFaalb said:

Funny stuff!

Funny stuff!