I haven't seen too many Menace edits, but I figure I can bring up this idea, anyway.

Before the actual film's release, I watched the Siskel and Ebert review and one of the things he mentioned about the movie is the reintroduction of the lightsaber, which after seeing the movie I came to agree. I never liked how, in a state of panic, the Jedi jumped up from the table and ignited their lightsabers. It seemed so unlike a Jedi to be scared like that, and it also made the lightsabers first appearance in the Prequels less dramatic as it was in the OT.

Here's what I would do, if I had the skill and wit, that is.

After the Neimoidians contact Sidious about what to do, I would place the protocol droid serving drinks scene at this point, and while the Jedi are just sitting there with their drinks, I would then place the dioxus gas coming through the vent scene, so we know how the Trade Federation plan to kill them. The next time we should see Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, is when the battle droids open the door to the gas filled reception room. This should be, in my opinion, the first time we get to see their ancient weapons come to life in the Prequels. I feel it would be a lot better than what Lucas decided on.

Well, good luck with your edit.

Fixed.

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<p><strong>fgqb#19nyj</strong> said:</p>
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<p>I haven't seen too many Menace edits, but I figure I can bring up this idea, anyway.</p>
<p><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">Before the actual film's release, I watched the Siskel and Ebert review and one of the things he mentioned about the movie is the reintroduction of the lightsaber, which after seeing the movie I came to agree. I never liked how, in a state of panic, the Jedi jumped up from the table and ignited their lightsabers. It seemed so unlike a Jedi to be scared like that, and it also made the lightsabers first appearance in the Prequels less dramatic as it was in the OT.</span></p>
<p><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">Here's what I would do, if I had the skill and wit, that is.</span></p>
<p><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">After the Neimoidians contact Sidious about what to do, I would place the protocol droid serving drinks scene at this point, and while the Jedi are just sitting there with their drinks, I would then place the dioxus gas coming through the vent scene, so we know how the Trade Federation plan to kill them. The next time we should see Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, is when the battle droids open the door to the gas filled reception room. This should be, in my opinion, the first time we get to see their ancient weapons come to life in the Prequels. I feel it would be a lot better than what Lucas decided on.</span></p>
<p><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">Well, good luck with your edit.</span></p>
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<p>Great! I'm going to try it. Actually I initially tried to keep the scene but rotoscoping out the lightsabers and only show them with the hilts but it didn't work. Anyway, thank you for suggestions.</p>
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<p>Dude, keep trying with that "just the hilts" idea. If you can get it to work, it'd be perfect.&nbsp;</p>

MrInsaneA said:

krloz said:

fgqb#19nyj said:

 

I haven't seen too many Menace edits, but I figure I can bring up this idea, anyway.

Before the actual film's release, I watched the Siskel and Ebert review and one of the things he mentioned about the movie is the reintroduction of the lightsaber, which after seeing the movie I came to agree. I never liked how, in a state of panic, the Jedi jumped up from the table and ignited their lightsabers. It seemed so unlike a Jedi to be scared like that, and it also made the lightsabers first appearance in the Prequels less dramatic as it was in the OT.

Here's what I would do, if I had the skill and wit, that is.

After the Neimoidians contact Sidious about what to do, I would place the protocol droid serving drinks scene at this point, and while the Jedi are just sitting there with their drinks, I would then place the dioxus gas coming through the vent scene, so we know how the Trade Federation plan to kill them. The next time we should see Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, is when the battle droids open the door to the gas filled reception room. This should be, in my opinion, the first time we get to see their ancient weapons come to life in the Prequels. I feel it would be a lot better than what Lucas decided on.

Well, good luck with your edit.

 

Great! I'm going to try it. Actually I initially tried to keep the scene but rotoscoping out the lightsabers and only show them with the hilts but it didn't work. Anyway, thank you for suggestions.

Dude, keep trying with that "just the hilts" idea. If you can get it to work, it'd be perfect. 

Hello krloz, I think what your doing is awesome and I've always thought the prequels were disappointing and could have been so so sooo much better. I have some friendly suggestions that I will post very soon. I actually wrote down a ton of things in a notebook I wouldve changed about 10 years ago. I will find it and post stuff you havent already mentioned. Liked what you did on Amidala's voice and Sidious. There are a ton of things that should be changed but heres a few lines/things that have always bothered me off the top of my head.

To be deleted...

1) Anakin asking padme "Are you an angel?" this might fall under your Jake lloyd edit

which includes the "yipee" and most of what he says I guess should be deleted.

2) Palpatine telling the Neimodians "This is my apprentice "Darth maul" he will find your lost ship" The "Darth Maul" should be dropped as it is unnecessary and cooler if its left out.

3) The pod race cg characters are terrible, I like that your getting read of the 2 headed announcer the " Thats gotta hurt line" is the worst line ever uttered in a star wars movie.

4) At the end of the movie when Darth Maul just stands there and lets himself get cut in half makes no sense... This is a guy who is incredibly fast yet stands there for 3 seconds while obi-wan does 3 flips, lands.... and then swings. Maybe atleast speed it up somehow by cutting it shorter or having him atleast try to move his saber.

5) Agree that entire gungan fight should be deleted.

6) In the scene where Sebulba is trying to intimidate anakin before the pod race I always thought it would of been cool if anakin tried to force choke him because he was so angry. Obviously he is too young to know what hes doing and cant pull it off but Maybe add a slight rumbling of the force in the soundtrack before sebulba walks away a little scared as almost like sebulba felt something and was like "wtf was that?" You know what force rumble sound im talking about right?

I have to find my notes but if you like any of these ideas let me know. Again I think what your doing is Great.

I liked the vid. I also loved how you inserted the OT music, too. I'm hoping you will add in a lot of old scores so it feels more like the OT. This is something I thought Lucas should have done with the Prequels, and it was something that sort of hurt the new films in my opinion.

I think it's possible to excise the whole chosen one prophecy and midi-chlorian virgin birth storyline completely, and I liked how it was edited out in this scene. It was done well here, but I would have loved to see the Jedi Council scene where this is discussed in more detail re-edited, instead. This I feel would be the challenge.

krloz said:

Here is new clip with Qui-Gon's death scene. I added new music and took out references of the chosen one.

https://vimeo.com/47822604

I know that you can still here a tad of the original music but I'm having trouble taking it out of the center channel. Any suggestions on how to take it out would be extremly appreciated.

VERY nice! =)

awesome work!

krloz said:

An idea I had:

https://vimeo.com/48111065

New music to make the jedi more mystical and it also makes a great connection with the OT.

I think this works out very nicely. You're right--it adds both a sense of the mysticism to the Jedi and an OT feel to the scene as a whole. Did you have to time it to match up the Jedi lowering their hoods with the sound of the harp, or did it just work out that way? Either way, it's brilliant.

On a related note, I'm not sure how you're planning to cut this scene in your final edit, but I'll say that I missed the shot of the Republic cruiser landing in the hangar bay, probably because it was one of the few ships in the prequels that looked like it would fit nicely into the OT (I believe it was fashioned after the Tantive IV design). Anyway, just a thought. Otherwise, this is great.

krloz said:

Captain Antilles said:

krloz said:

An idea I had:

https://vimeo.com/48111065

New music to make the jedi more mystical and it also makes a great connection with the OT.

I think this works out very nicely. You're right--it adds both a sense of the mysticism to the Jedi and an OT feel to the scene as a whole. Did you have to time it to match up the Jedi lowering their hoods with the sound of the harp, or did it just work out that way? Either way, it's brilliant.

On a related note, I'm not sure how you're planning to cut this scene in your final edit, but I'll say that I missed the shot of the Republic cruiser landing in the hangar bay, probably because it was one of the few ships in the prequels that looked like it would fit nicely into the OT (I believe it was fashioned after the Tantive IV design). Anyway, just a thought. Otherwise, this is great.

I timed the harp to be at the exact time when they lower their hoods so they could be reveal the same way Ben Kenobi was revealed in ANH.

I think the pace does better without the ship's landing scene, it slows down the sequence but I do agree that the ship is one of the most closest looking to an OT one. Especially because I believe this is a minature and not CG. But I don't like the shot of the droids looking at them because there are this droids in the background that are also fighters, and they use their wings to walk. I think it's to much. I'm still not sure but if I can get these droids out of the background I might put the sequence back in but for now it'll be this way.

I'm glad you liked it, thank you.

Yeah, I hate the droid fighters walking on their wings, too. It's not a big deal or anything; the scene is certainly fine without this shot, but I'd still love to see it--it's probably one of the few ships landing/docking shots of the PT that's worth saving. =P