TMBTM
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I'm actualy toying with color correction of deleted scenes for my new edit The War of the stars part2. But i'd like to make NOT a grindhouse edit like the first.
So every lines and spot removal tools are welcome. I tried Spotremover for virtualdub, but I'm not a expert and as english is not my first language I have difficulties to understand its subtilities. And the result is not good. At all.
So for now I only make color correction.
Here is Dark Jedi version 3 of the GOUT:

Now my color corrected version of the extended scene:

And a reminder of the original extended scene:

Now, for my edit, I only work in DVD quality with premiere pro. But it was just to show you some preview.
The Aluminum Falcon
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Slayer of DeaditesTMBTM said:
I'm actualy toying with color correction of deleted scenes for my new edit The War of the stars part2. But i'd like to make NOT a grindhouse edit like the first.
WAR OF THE STARS 2?? That sounds absolutely brilliant. I'll be interested in any alternative cut of ESB: non grindhouse or not. In any case, with that one mention, you've already got me thrilled! :D
So every lines and spot removal tools are welcome. I tried Spotremover for virtualdub, but I'm not a expert and as english is not my first language I have difficulties to understand its subtilities. And the result is not good. At all.
Spotremover is not a partcularly good filter IMO. It seems to be very similar to the DNR used on the GOUT. I tried to pass some aged film through there and it became completely smoothed out: utterly awful looking...
Now, for my edit, I only work in DVD quality with premiere pro. But it was just to show you some preview.
Good job on that color correction! It nearly matches the V3 perfectly. It's far better than mine...
By the way, out of sheer curiosity, did anyone see any of the color-corrected deleted scenes I posted?
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¤°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°¤TMBTM said:
I'm actualy toying with color correction of deleted scenes
And a reminder of the original extended scene:
Thats ace mate!
You created the base for the fine adjustments step. The result it self is amazing!
I would love to see a comparison clip of your work on this :D
-Angel
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darth_ender
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTIf someone were crazy enough to color at least one of the black and white female pilots, here is her only shot in the movie.

At least it's a reference point. I doubt anyone would take on such a task, but at least there is a reference for her.
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
TMBTM
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Okay, I will not give away too much of my ideas for WOTS 2 but here is the idea for reincorporating one of the black and white deleted/extended scene:

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Slayer of DeaditesGreat!!! That looks great, TMBTM. The tints give it an otherworldly feel. I'd hardly know the base was B&W if you didn't tell me. The bright blue then red light makes it feel like some harsher decontamination/healing is going on...
Slightly off topic, using tints to colorize does remind me of the Moroder's Cut of Metropolis. Did you use this as an influence?
darth_ender
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTWow, that does look good! I hope you do decide to colorize the ROTJ b/w clips as well. That really is terrific.
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
emanswfan
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Here's Luke working on his lightsaber in the proper colors!
darth_ender
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTLooking good!
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
Sluggo
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is automatic for the people.Hey, there is something interesting going on in the forums. Cool.
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish memes.
Check out my reconstruction of the ROTJ Shooting Script
TV's Frink
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Likes Lens FlairsHey, Sluggo is back. Even cooler!
Sluggo
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is automatic for the people.I try when I can. Deal with it.
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish memes.
Check out my reconstruction of the ROTJ Shooting Script
Ovan Marekal
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Head of the Transport GuildAnyone know where I can find the "Lost Rebels" footage? The cache of deleted scenes I have doesn't contain it. :-S
Kurgan
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WormYou mean the one with the unseen pilots? Or the stuff on the Falcon with the alternate gunners and such?
It was online some time ago...
Rick2525
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Padawan LearnerI have a suggestion that you can take or leave at your leisure ...
How about presenting most/all of the deleted scenes in (very long) "flashback sequences" (akin to Julia :) ), as this would definitely give the whole movie a different spin and feel to proceedings.
In fact, to present Luke's longing to reach the stars as a past event would probably have more viceral (and 70s) impact than showing it in linear/real-time ... and given these scenes can be easily interpreted as a distant look back into Luke's life, rather than being intertwined within the concurrent timeline of the angst scenes with Uncle Owen & Aunt Beru ... as well as we only ever see that floppy hat of Luke's when he's whining to his friends or burning his eyes out through bifocals staring out at the dual suns etc.
Therefore, there may not be any need to "clean up" these deleted scenes, since the film scratches and reminiscing-B&W display will give more "authenticity" to Luke's recollection of happier days when he'd be playing with his Power Convertors from Toshi.
I only hope I'm not too late with this offering for you to consider this for maybe v3 of your edit.
Live Long and Prosper (and one hand up with a four-finger split arrangement that is not unlike a death-metal salute with extra digits). :)
negative1
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negative1i've made a first test pass on the treadwell/luke
scene in 1080p... here's the downscale comparison
against the original..
didn't clean up the vertical lines,
'glue' frames, or frame bumps yet..
sampled ever 50 frames out 1300:
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i'll post some of the more extreme cleanup frames also..
later
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darth_ender
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTLooking good. Keep up the good work. I love to see these deleted scene restorations, (though I'm the biggest fan of ROTJ scenes ;)
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
negative1
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negative1darth_ender said:
Looking good. Keep up the good work. I love to see these deleted scene restorations, (though I'm the biggest fan of ROTJ scenes ;)
yeah, thanks..
i'm only doing star wars.
but at some point i'll do empire,
and maybe the return of the jedi clips too..
later
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Monroville
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"This is a film by a filmmaker desperately in love with filmmaking" - Harold KnowlesWould there ever be the possibility of seeing a tutorial (or at least a link or two to a good tutorial on cleaning and/or color correcting)? I would love to take a shot at the new SUSPIRIA blu-ray, among a few other titles.
Such as this scene right here:

negative1
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negative1Monroville said:
Would there ever be the possibility of seeing a tutorial (or at least a link or two to a good tutorial on cleaning and/or color correcting)? I would love to take a shot at the new SUSPIRIA blu-ray, among a few other titles.
Such as this scene right here:
i can't see this image.. i went to the site,
all the images looked good to me.
if you need to ask for coloring advice, the
technical forum would be better for that.
it's a whole art into itself. i don't know
much about it.
there are filters for freeware avisynth/virtualdub,
for fixing scratches, cleaning up dirt, and dust.
however professional software uses a lot more sophisticated
algorithms, including blending, color look ahead, temporal fixing
and others..
basically, it's a lot of looking back/forward at previous frames.
taking the pixels you want replaced.. averaging them over
time.. and pasting them over the original..
you have to look for non-damaged frames if the error is one
spot (lines/scratches).. in that case, you have to make an
educated guess at what the pixel color will be based on
the surrounding pixels and what there color is..
in still pictures with little movement like this, it works
great, because you have a lot more frames to get
pixel replacements from..
when you have short scenes, or a lot of movement.
then you have to go in by hand, and figure it out
by yourself.. otherwise most of its automated.
later
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emanswfan
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Just a thing on the restoration of the scene above,when repairing the frames, it's best done after the colour-correction. When you end color sorrecting the scene, artifacts from the cleaning usually start appearing.
negative1
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negative1emanswfan said:
Just a thing on the restoration of the scene above,when repairing the frames, it's best done after the colour-correction. When you end color sorrecting the scene, artifacts from the cleaning usually start appearing.
yup, that's right..
too bad, i'm not very good at
the color correction part...
i'll leave that to the experts..
later
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negative1
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negative1ok, started a thread about cleaning frames
here, with a new example of han shot first:
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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/cleaning-up-dirty-frames-for-scenes/topic/14044/
here's the toughest frame to clean:
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also there's a thread about color correcting here:
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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Methods-for-colour-matching-colour-grading/topic/9430/
hopefully that will help people looking into it.
later
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negative1
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negative1althors has done a cleanup of the
luke and treadwell scene using
avisynth and a modified 8mm cleanup script.
he'll post some details and a video clip too.
later
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