DuracellEnergizer
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Ce n'est pas DuracellEnergizerI'll never understand Hollywood's current fixation against grain in films.
Then again, seeing as Hollywood's an asylum being run by nuts, perhaps I should.
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Ointment FlyAntcuFaalb said:
SilverWook said:
If you mean grain, that's the fault of some studio's overuse of noise reduction, not the format itself.
Proposal: From now on, grain=grit.
True Grain was a pretty good movie.
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!Jaitea said:
SilverWook said:
If you mean grain, that's the fault of some studio's overuse of noise reduction, not the format itself.
Isn't film grain just a natural occurrence on film, it becomes more noticeable depending what film stock you use or what film format....16mm film when blown up on a projection screen would have more grain evident.
I think when TPM was released on BD the digital scan was processed and cleaned up so much (DNR) that it not only removed grain but also removed so much detail that it made the characters look like waxworks
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Some filmmakers have used specific film stocks to achieve a certain look. The choice of camera lenses also play into this. It's an artistic choice as much as important as what paint is used in a portrait. Some digitally shot films have had fake grain added!
Some digital still cameras I've seen have modes to emulate film as well.
An old movie should never be manipulated to look like a modern one, especially by people who had no part in it's creation, and have no idea what they're doing.
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Ce n'est pas DuracellEnergizerGrain removal is the new colourization.
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DuracellEnergizer said:
Grain removal is the new colourization.
Pretty much. And if you look at lots of Disney releases, you'll see DNR is their best friend. The only thing that scares me if they re-released Star Wars, but I wouldn't think they'd do that. Though, anyone who has a bluray of any of the Disney classic animated films, knows that many of the films are completely destroyed. Cinderalla on VHS has literally more detail than it's newer Bluray counterpart. There's something wrong if a VHS looks better than a bluray.
Not all Disney classics are affected by it, but certainly far too many are.
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I am ready for the trials!DuracellEnergizer said:
Grain removal is the new colourization.
Exactly! And there are still people who don't like black and white. At least with all the colorized releases I'm aware of, there's a BW option.
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"Take Me To Your Cinema"If you don't like B&W you don't like film. Colorized films can be fun though as an alternate viewing experience. 'It's A Wonderful' is done very well on the Blu-Ray but still not a patch on the original.
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Ryan McAvoy said:
'It's A Wonderful' is done very well on the Blu-Ray but still not a patch on the original.
The 2007 colorization still looks pretty bad. The only colorization that looked good to me was the I Love Lucy Scottland episode colorization. If you look at the real life color stills and then at the colorized episode, they look identical. They're even planning to release a colorized version of the whole series for the bluray version. But know matter how good it would look, I wouldn't bare to watch it a different way than how I watched it as a kid.
So even if it does look good, I still think it ruins a film.
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Usualy I'm against grain removal. But in certain case, when not overused, it could be okay. Like for the Aliens bluray. Cameron said that he used cheap film stock to make the budget smaller (or because it was all he had) (IIRC) so when the time for the bluray has come he tried to diminish the grain with great care. He still let some of it because it was how the movie looked but it was not the way he would have shot the movie back then. So, all in all, it all depends on who does the job and with what intention in mind and with what result... You could also say that if you don't want to do wrong: don't use grain removal. ;)
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Ryan McAvoy said:
If you don't like B&W you don't like film. Colorized films can be fun though as an alternate viewing experience.
My exact thoughts.
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Ce n'est pas DuracellEnergizerRyan McAvoy said:
If you don't like B&W you don't like film.
God doesn't think in terms of black or white - or even shades of gray - but in big, bright, bold hues of blue and orange.
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This is what Star Wars would like with DNR. Scary, I know.