Who cares?

It's like the John Simm story a few months back.

Celebrity gossip isn't real journalism and how much of that exists anymore?

When someone reports something actually important like our governments spying on us they respond like this jerk.

If a bunch of clowns want to brand STID as the worst ST film ever (Which it just isn't by any measure, however you feel about it) then why not tell them to go f*ck themselves. Hardly the end of the world. People need a sense of humour sometimes.

Also Simon is a HUGE SW fan, always has been just like you and me. I hate what was done in the PT also but I'd still jump at the chance of being involved in some level (Not that anybody would ask me to do a voice lol). Nothing hypocritical about that.

Plus just for that hilarious scene from Spaced where Simon burns all his SW memorabilia after seeing TPM (Perfectly capturing the pain of a generation) means I'll forgive him almost anything ;-) *

(* Maybe not his performance as Scotty)

I don't know.

STID is pretty bad, maybe not as bad as Insurrection or Generations but close to Star Trek V (which had more in it that i enjoyed).

Calling people clowns or worse isn't really the right thing to do.

People may work hard and have the right intentions and fail.

Some people may not try too hard and accidentally create a genuine masterpiece of lasting value.

At the end of the day taste is subjective.

STID is nowhere near the worse Trek film, but you only had to see the commotion coming from Trek fans when JJ was announced as the Director of Ep7. All the stupid little muppets were going to say STID was terrible even if it was one of the best just because they feel that he has "betrayed" Trek for doing Star Wars. After seeing all this crap on facebook and twitter after it was announced you can see the real reasons why it was voted as the worse at by these fans.

But it's the same with certain SW fans to towards Pegg. Just because he was vocal at his hatred towards the PT they call him a hypocrite because he worked on the Clone Wars. He's not a bloody hypocrite at all. The Clone Wars was more like the OT than ANY of the PT films and that series was much better done. You can love that series yet still hate the PT. Just because it is set in that era doesn't mean to say it is anything like it. Plus he was also playing a character from the OT and NOT a PT character.

It's sectarianism pure and simple.

If the PT had been as good or even better than the OT there would still be an OT/PT schism of some kind just because there is a line to stand either side of.

You see with games consoles, computer operating systems, sports teams, bands of the moment, methods of government, countries, religions etc.

It's a universal constant of history.

How far or near the latest Star Trek film is to being the worst film is subject to taste which is subjective but it was nowhere near as good as the previous one was being sold but there again professional film critics are a clique too.

adywan said:

Just because he was vocal at his hatred towards the PT they call him a hypocrite because he worked on the Clone Wars.

For me, I was irritated more by the fact that he very publicly insulted George Lucas, but was more than happy to then go and work for him.  As for ST, has he even attempted to understand why someone might view ST:ID as the worst ST movie? I guess it's just easier to tell them to 'f*ck off'. He is entitled to his opinions. I just think he should be a bit more careful about what he says and the way he says it.

 

I've said things about companies and people I have later worked for that could be described but some as insulting.

So what?

Is there a list of his public insults directed at the man Lucas?

All I can remember is a character he played voicing views I agree with about The Phantom Menace and the man himself commenting on the idiotic changes made to the blu-ray sets.

I personally would feel happy to say those things to anyone who cared to hear me and work for Lucas.

Indeed going by how Gods damned hot Lucas looks I'd have sex with him while telling him these things and take payment afterwards (but I doubt if his wife or my better half would let that happen).

Warbler said:

Star Trek ID isn't the trek movie, that honor belongs to Star Trek V

A popular choice I know but Generations and Insurrection are worse in my opinion.

I'm not that keen on any of the Next Generation films but those two were truly awful.

that is no reason to tell them "fuck you!"

There aren't many good reasons for swearing at people you don't know.

He is only human and I notice humans do that sort of thing.

doubleKO said:

This thread is the worse.

So truue.

         I wouldn't be worried about a group with such unusual priorities. They put some good glorified TV episodes in their top three list of great Trek films. Though I know I'm not one to talk, I rate the films for pure personal entertainment value. #1 TVH: I got some hearty laughs and some good chuckles in what I thought was a terrific send-off for the TOS crew.  #2 ST09 A great rip-roaring reintroduction to an alternate TOS universe.  #3 TWOK Managed to achieve the level of a true cinematic space opera.

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Pegg wasn't telling Trek fans "fuck you," he was telling those who voted it the worst "fuck you." I would've done the same thing, and I didn't even work on the movie. 

even so, I don't think I'd say something like that to the people that pay my salary.   No fans buying the tickets, Dvds, blu rays, other merchandise,  Pegg don't get paid.

They don't pay his salary. Paramount pay a contractually agreed amount for the Star Trek gig. The 'fans' have nothing to do with it. It's also a bit hypocritical for the FOADmeister to suggest cutting his salary for swearing at strangers he doesn't agree with.