darth_ender
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFThttp://www.cracked.com/article_18858_the-biggest-star-wars-plot-hole-explained-by-science.html
Proved by actual science and sociology, real reasons why the good guys won!
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Darth Editous
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Your powers are weak...It's a lot simpler than that.
"I can't see a thing in this helmet!" - Luke Skywalker.
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Bingowings
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Magister Pontifex MaximusThere is an even better explanation in the plot of the first film.
THE HOMING BEACON.
There would be very little point sticking one on the Falcon if the Empire intended to shoot and kill the escaping Rebels.
As Leia said, "It's the only explanation for the ease of our escape".
Why they are such lousy shots in the later films is where you need fancy theories.
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DuracellEnergizer
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Mirror LandoScientific evidence? Pffft. The only decent explanation is that none of the writers who ever worked on the scripts knew how to write the good guys out of life-threatening situations without making the bad guys imcompetent dolts.

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frank678
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This point has probably been made before but doesnt the force protect luke and leia from being shot like Vader can't get a fix on Luke in the trench run
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That's impossible, even for a computerI always figured that after Jango died, they had to start cloning from the clones, and eventually they became retarded.
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Bingowings said:
There is an even better explanation in the plot of the first film.
THE HOMING BEACON.
There would be very little point sticking one on the Falcon if the Empire intended to shoot and kill the escaping Rebels.
As Leia said, "It's the only explanation for the ease of our escape".
Why they are such lousy shots in the later films is where you need fancy theories.
That makes senses except for the stormtroopers in the sentry ships - would they have been briefed to attack and get blown up or not briefed and their ships handicapped in some way?
ray_afraid
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A Midwest Monster Of The Highest Gradefrank678 said:
Bingowings said:
There is an even better explanation in the plot of the first film.
THE HOMING BEACON.
There would be very little point sticking one on the Falcon if the Empire intended to shoot and kill the escaping Rebels.
As Leia said, "It's the only explanation for the ease of our escape".
Why they are such lousy shots in the later films is where you need fancy theories.
That makes senses except for the stormtroopers in the sentry ships - would they have been briefed to attack and get blown up or not briefed and their ships handicapped in some way?
Bingo nailed it. IT'S THE PLOT OF THE FILM! Whatever the case with the TIEs was, Leia obviously could tell they weren't coming full force. It was after the TIE attack that she called the whole thing "To easy".
Empire has a few problems with lousy fire from the Stormtroopers during the escape from Cloud City. But R2's tricks and such are supposed to be interfering and whatever and for the most part it works for me while I'm watching.
Jedi... Now we get to serious problems. The inefficiency of the Stormtroopers during the Endor battle boggles the mind at times. Usually they're just getting hit by small spears that don't puncture their armor, yet it keeps them from being able to shoot. What the hell?
frank678
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How about this : "Sentry ships engage the Falcon but don't destroy it - we'll be right there with back up soon... any minute now... nearly there..."
canofhumdingers
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Doesn't know how to handle his new-found famenot to mention they only sent FOUR tie fighters...? if they seriously wanted to catch them, don't you think they'd send a few more? the death star was huge it probably had hundreds if not thousands of fighters available...
of course that also begs the question: then why didn't they send out every ship the had at the battle of yavin? surely they could've stopped the rebels with shear overwhelming numbers in a matter of minutes if they really wanted to...

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frank678
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also on the approach to the death star the tie fighter buzzes the falcon - and the falcon doesnt catch up to it before the tractor beam - the tie fighters must be pretty fast in non hyper space
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!As was said in the movie, the station was designed around a "direct large scale assault". They didn't anticipate "snub fighters" ever mounting an attack.
Tarkin and his lackeys believed their own hype about the Death Star being invulnerable, and scaring people into submission once word spread about Alderaan. It probably had a light complement of TIE's the same way Titanic didn't have enough lifeboats.
In Jedi, the DS II seems to have a lot more fighters protecting it.
Bingowings
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Magister Pontifex MaximusBy the looks of things though those fighters were fleet ships not stationed on the err...station.
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