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Reginald ScumSteve Sansweet has his head so far up George Lucas' ass he could probably see Rick McCallum's feet.
LOL
Yeah I don't think anybody's as far up there as Rick McCallum, but there are others who come close. *cackles*
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As with your book and other website, having everything quoted, footnoted, and documented adds credibility to those that want to follow the paper trail. For instance this Hamill/Sansweet thing, what's the evidence for this? The John Knoll quote from the Blockbuster book.
Also a glossary of terms like Lowry, and the various preservation people/projects will help get people up to speed.
Modify the <pre><title>"Template #45 - Aquarium Template"</title></pre> on each page.
In the preservation reviews you get specific on image quality aspects. If they can be captured in a pic with arrows pointing to the various imperfections, that will help those who are unfamiliar with the terms but might sense it visually.
The second article talks about the fanboys "who don't care", this seems like a pot shot. Yes they exist, but maybe replace them with something like the 'general populace, who will consume the latest and greatest, just because it's 'new' could suffice. Use the weight of the financial force of the general populace against the argument that proper preservation needs to start from the source.
Is an article about the expanded preservation type projects, the variations of SW, something you have in mind? Projects like the preservation of the Audio Description Audio (since it's not an option on any of the Home video version) is an angle which can fortify the cause. All the old making of specials that babyhum and others have preserved could be mentioned there.
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Chief Architect of Cynical MoralityI noticed that the page on the British IP has "GOUT" on the comp images. Do we need a glossary, or at least a footnote?
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is automatic for the people.And you mentioned the Latest "EditDroid" release not being by the EditDroid team. That is correct?
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Jedi KnightThe Sansweet incident was told to me personally by Alexandre Philipe, the director of PVGL. The new Editdroid guy also got in contact with me, perhaps I should post that in its thread. But yeah, I was thinking of footnoting things, my aim was to make it a bit more casual than that but I guess it can never hurt if people are already wondering where certain info comes from. More pictures will be added to all pages soon.
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Padawan LearnerThat Mark Hamill incident is just ugh. I hope maybe that's just Sansweet being a socially inappropriate weirdo and not something with any actual authority behind it. (Hey fruitcake, stick to hoarding 1977 Count Chocula boxes and leave Luke Skywalker alone.)
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Jedi KnightSansweet is actually a fairly powerful underling at Lucasfilm. He's sort of the fan ambassador. He liasons with the public and cast and crew, he's all over conventions as a Lucasfilm rep and makes public statements on behalf of the company, he's involved in home video releases to some extent it seems, he writes books, I think he has a column or something on the official website, and other stuff. He's basically the ultimate fanboy who happened to get turned in to a real Lucasfilm employee.
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I am ready for the OOT!I'll never forget the time Sansweet stood in front of a convention audience and stated that the GOUT was the best preservation of a film he had ever seen.
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Disco Stu likes Disco music!Erikstormtrooper said:
I'll never forget the time Sansweet stood in front of a convention audience and stated that the GOUT was the best preservation of a film he had ever seen.
would've loved to be there, just to headbutt him!
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
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Jedi KnightErikstormtrooper said:
I'll never forget the time Sansweet stood in front of a convention audience and stated that the GOUT was the best preservation of a film he had ever seen.
Wow. What a fucking idiot.
It reminds me of this time...I think the show is called G4 or something? Some tech show. They had Bill Hunt from the Digital Bits and some fucking tool from TFN, I think it might be the owner of TFN, and they were there to debate the GOUT release, and he was such a fucking moron it astounded me. Bill would make very reasoned, rational arguments and then this TFN idiot would just grin stupidly and spout marketing cacthphrases that didn't even address the issues Bill raised. And I think finally at one point Bill was like, what are you saying that's not even an argument. He was saying things like "this is the best the films have ever looked" and "this is really about taking a journey back in time and enjoying the originals" or some shit. I couldn't believe it. Then I realized: these guys are really just Lucasfilm implants in the fan community. But they are for real, it's not just because it's their job, they actually have been that brainwashed to think like that. Its bloody weird!
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http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/theloop/62851/The-Loop-Is-George-Lucas-Ripping-You-Off.html
Kevin and guests, Bill Hunt, Lore Sjoberg and Josh Griffin, discuss whether you should rush out and buy the new Star Wars DVD's or if George Lucas is trying to line his pockets with more of your hard earned cash
here's the OT.com thread about the appearance:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic-print.cfm/Tune-Into-G4-This-Afternoon/topic/6540/
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I am ready for the trials!The GOUT aliasing issue actually brings me to a question I've had about NTSC dvds in general:
Are NTSC dvds* 23.976 fps with 29.97 fps flags or are they 29.97? There's several reasons I'm confused on the issue, but the GOUT relates to it because I remember the talk back in '06 about how they IVTC'd the '93 laserdisc master in order to make the dvd progressive. Also, one of the online reviews said something along the lines of "although progressively encoded, the discs suffer from aliasing." So was the IVTC'ing to get it from 60i to 30p or was it to get from 30p to 24p? Someone please clear this whole issue up for me!
*just to avoid confusion, the examples I'm thinking of are new release titles made from 2k/4k masters.
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likes ice creamI thoroughly approve of this. Great work Zombie. The motivation for the creation of the site (sticker book releases making news) and the poster (Baronlando) that wrote it made me lol :)
Regarding the "don't rock the boat" article, is there any chance of getting the full John Knolls quote from the Tom Shone book? Sounds interesting.
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Jedi KnightI'll have to see if I can find it in the library some time.
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New page up. Needs more images, and probably some corrections, but preview: http://savestarwars.com/filmpreservation.html
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Chief Architect of Cynical MoralityGreat article, as usual.
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zombie84,
I'm glad I came across this thread. You have the beginnings of a nice site there. :)
I am fairly skilled in html and I offer my help should you want to take it. I have seen a thing or two that I can help with right away, should you desire. I'll be able to help get the page to start appearing in search engines as well.
I'm here and at your disposal. :)
-JT
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Padawan Learnersee you auntie said:
Regarding the "don't rock the boat" article, is there any chance of getting the full John Knolls quote from the Tom Shone book? Sounds interesting.
Is this it?
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Jedi KnightYup.
JediTrya, did you have anything specific in mind?
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Well, we can start by changing the Title of the page from:
"Template #45 - Aquarium Template"
To something like:
"Welcome to SaveStarWars.com!"
:)
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Jedi KnightYeah, most of the site is still under construction. Lotta dead links, temp photos, unfinished details. I'm working on getting the content up before I tweak that stuff.
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'Blu, not Blue!' campaign supporter - the struggle continues...Neat site zombie84! I'll be following it's progress with great interest.
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legendary but little-known Jedi MasterThe "look" is great, and a site like this is desperately needed.
Having said that, I would try and solicit some help (from members of this board and others) in wordsmithing the body of material on the main page. It should be as clear, concise, and professional as possible if it is to have any impact on people who aren't already familiar with the topic. As it is, I think someone previously unfamiliar with the issue would find it rambling, uncompelling, and more than a bit confusing. It's easy to get us excited, as we already know what you're saying. But put yourself in someone else's shoes and imagine what the average person would think upon encountering the site out of curiosity. I think they would probably not hang around very long, and might leave with the wrong impression about the effort and the people who feel strongly about it.
Verbiage such as "powers that be", "fanboy delusions of entitlement", "ethically speaking belongs to society", "deliberate suppression", "the world will not accept this" may resonate powerfully with some of us on OT.com. But to most others it probably would sound a bit crazy, and could even be used as fodder along those lines. They also serve to distract, rather than educate.
It isn't easy to write material that both grabs and informs casual readers, because it has to be thorough without being lengthy, intelligent without being confusing, correct without being dry, and strong without appearing juvenile. It could take months to get it just right, but it would help the page have a lot more impact, in my opinion. Please understand I'm not trying to offend - as I am thrilled that you are putting this together. I just would like to see it become a respected and referenced source that helps get the word out, rather than being one more avenue for TFN's portrayal of us as crazy obsessives.
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Magister Pontifex Maximuszombie84 said:
He's always been. The impression I get is that he's basically like one of the guys from TFN, whos world would shatter if Lucas was shown to be less than a god. Steve Sansweet has his head so far up George Lucas' ass he could probably see Rick McCallum's feet.
I know I'm a bit late but didn't we used to have a post of the week thread?
Because if it's still around (and I have looked) I'd have nominated that one.
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likes ice creamzombie84 said:
I'll have to see if I can find it in the library some time.
If you don't have it on hand that's cool don't worry about it.
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