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frank678's avatar
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I like the increased cleanness and the clarity that that adds to the image. It would be nice to see a very short before-and-after clip to see the effect in motion, if you are able to post one.
Asaki's avatar
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I don't mind the dirt. Can we see what the "rainbow" cleanup looks like?

To help the analysis further, take a look at these close ups of Obi-Wan's beard -- STENDEC

Joel's avatar
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If you have any big stuff to fix that doesn't get cleaned up with automated processes, I'd be happy to take a crack at it with AE rotoscoping (I outlined some of this in the x9 thread, not realizing that you'd moved on from that already :) )

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Wow! You've done some good clean-up on this so far and it sounds like you're only getting started. Filtering out the rainbowing was definitely a good choice; it's one of my bigger problems with the Technidisc. I'm looking forward to seeing what else you can do.

Now then, one problem that msycamore frequently brings up with his own transfer is the poor white balance as shown here. Are you planning on addressing that specifically?

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bkev said:

Filtering out the rainbowing was definitely a good choice; it's one of my bigger problems with the Technidisc.

Yeah, I agree, it's very ugly but I ultimately decided to left it in, as the side effects of such filtering are often worse than the original problem. It's no match to get rid of, but what you often end up with is smearing, ghosting, objects that should have colors gets desaturated - seen on lights and lasers etc. I have not yet found a good derainbowing filter that not introduce artifacts of some sort. Fast moving scenes are the toughest.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

frank678's avatar
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What is/how does ColourLike work?

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AntcuFaalb said:

frank678 said:

What is/how does ColourLike work?

Click Here

After experimenting with ColourLike() using the Technidisc and the GOUT, I've decided that it doesn't work well enough; e.g., GOUT w/ Technidisc colors has weird patches of what are best described as murky rainbows.

Do you have to have 2 complete films to do this. Can you use the values of a still and apply it to a whole scene?

Also it's possible myscamore might be willing to recapture the Technidisc if you can see a way forward with it that you can't get now, etc. I'm interested to see what you arrive at anyway whatever version you work on, some of these versions look so bad in places practically anything is an improvement!

frank678's avatar
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Hope this works. This is summing captures to produce the biggest range/depth I'm guessing?

The idea I had about how to use a still to recolour a scene was getting the values of a reference still then finding that still within a whole scene getting those values and setting them as a zero point then recording how the numbers shifted across the scene. Then plug in the reference numbers from the reference still into the zero point and then apply back the pattern shift with the new numbers. If both source and destination are scaled to match and its all just numbers then would this work? You could get the whole body from one cell!!!???

 

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I'm not going to recapture it, because the results wouldn't be any different with the player or combfilter available to me, but like I've said before I'm going to upload a 2nd much improved version from my original capture as I know it can look so much better than what the current DVD does.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

frank678's avatar
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msycamore said:

I'm not going to recapture it, because the results wouldn't be any different with the player or combfilter available to me, but like I've said before I'm going to upload a 2nd much improved version from my original capture as I know it can look so much better than what the current DVD does.

Apologies for saying 'recapture', what my brain accuractely meant was "re post-processed version". Since you had talked about this with the raw captures in another thread I hope this was o.k. to bring up.

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AntcuFaalb said:

Sure: Sample 5 Sample 6!

Not bad. It does miss a few spots, but it looks a lot nicer than it did before.

I have no idea what kind of negative effects from the process I would be looking for, though =)

AntcuFaalb said:

I plan to ColourLike against another source anyway.

 I don't know what you would mix it with...the GOUT has nothing to gain from...maybe you could get a tiny sharpness boost from adding the Technidisc's color with the JSC, but that seems like a lot of work for something that will (hopefully) be obsolete before the year is over.

To help the analysis further, take a look at these close ups of Obi-Wan's beard -- STENDEC

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Asaki said:
.. but that seems like a lot of work for something that will (hopefully) be obsolete before the year is over.

i'm *fearful* that someones sitting on a version so good it could become an arrestable and sueable offense **paranoia**- but if it's fated the world can't get a thoroughly perfect or near perfect version the best of whats possible is still needed

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Another forthcoming new release. good stuff.

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AntcuFaalb said:

frank678 said:

Another forthcoming new release. good stuff.

PS78 might get in the way :-)

Let it! The PS78 is a one of a kind thing. Its still pretty remarkable to me that in places this vhs bootleg tape has held onto more of the original colours than several subsequent official releases. it's a crazy state of affairs.

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