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Padawan LearnerI might still be seeding this (when my computer is on). Let me check tonight.
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Padawan LearnerYeah, I'm still seeding...
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Krycek87 said:
Ah man, I forgot this was Rar'ed. I don't know if I'll be able to help.
Yeah, same here, I seem to have misplaced the RAR file(s).
To help the analysis further, take a look at these close ups of Obi-Wan's beard -- STENDEC
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Child is the Father of the ManThanks guys! It was enough seeders for me to finish the file. I'll probably end up watching this pretty soon...
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Padawan LearnerFirst of all, I really enjoyed this capture! :) Do you have any clue if there exists DVNR-free LD's for the sequels as well? Saw something mentioned about Empire somewhere in this thread?
Doing my best to keep track of all the editions and releases but it's a rather vast ocean..
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Memorex said:
First of all, I really enjoyed this capture! :) Do you have any clue if there exists DVNR-free LD's for the sequels as well? Saw something mentioned about Empire somewhere in this thread?
Yes, as far as I know every SW-LD released before 1993 was devoid of any DVNR, the US SWE LD's (Special Widescreen Edition) and the Japanese equivalents, the Special Collection, was the first and last quality release of the films in their original widescreen aspect ratio before the DVNR, before the dark times. ;)
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Makes one wonder why they didn't use the SWE or JSC masters for the GOUT DVDs instead.
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You_Too said:
Makes one wonder why they didn't use the SWE or JSC masters for the GOUT DVDs instead.
Yeah, but not everyone thinks the THX versions are lesser versions, at the time of their release they were seen by many as the best the films had ever looked on video, most people prefer them to the older releases. I liked many aspects of that release as well, the audio is definitely the best part on those releases IMO.
If the older masters had been used instead, if they even exist(ed), people would've complained anyway as one of the most popular and influental films of all time deserved better than being presented as bonus material to the bastard child in that case, and sourced from a 15 or 20 year old LD-master. Not even cheap pornos are treated like this.
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msycamore said:
If the older masters had been used instead, if they even exist(ed), people would've complained anyway as one of the most popular and influental films of all time deserved better than being presented as bonus material to the bastard child in that case, and sourced from a 15 or 20 year old LD-master. Not even cheap pornos are treated like this.
Of course they deserve better. They deserve the best. But as long as the mainstream keeps praising the SE's we won't see a proper release.
That's why this forum is so good. :)
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I've actually never heard them getting much praise but in the end, what you think of them won't matter much since your wallet is speaking higher than your opinion, every SE version of the films have made insane amounts of money, and that's the only thing that matters to Lucasfilm.
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Yeah, and that's the reason I haven't bought anything Star Wars related since the late 90's. Last thing I got was the 97 SE VHS box but I was a teen back then and had no idea that it would be so much worse than the original.
I wanted to buy the GOUT in 2006 but I just couldn't, since that would've supported the 2004 SE's, and I was disappointed that the GOUT was in 4:3 letterbox.
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Padawan Learnermsycamore said:
Memorex said:
First of all, I really enjoyed this capture! :) Do you have any clue if there exists DVNR-free LD's for the sequels as well? Saw something mentioned about Empire somewhere in this thread?
Yes, as far as I know every SW-LD released before 1993 was devoid of any DVNR, the US SWE LD's (Special Widescreen Edition) and the Japanese equivalents, the Special Collection, was the first and last quality release of the films in their original widescreen aspect ratio before the DVNR, before the dark times. ;)
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Padawan Learnermsycamore said:
Memorex said:
First of all, I really enjoyed this capture! :) Do you have any clue if there exists DVNR-free LD's for the sequels as well? Saw something mentioned about Empire somewhere in this thread?
Yes, as far as I know every SW-LD released before 1993 was devoid of any DVNR, the US SWE LD's (Special Widescreen Edition) and the Japanese equivalents, the Special Collection, was the first and last quality release of the films in their original widescreen aspect ratio before the DVNR, before the dark times. ;)
Ah, yes, these SWE LD's where the ones I was mainly thinkin' about!
Just recently noticed there was full activity going on in the JSC-thread, seems very interesting! :)
I hate that damn smearing just as much as you do!
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Thanks for all the kind feedback I got for this one and to everyone who help seed it, I'm unfortunately not able to do so any longer as I lost this in a HD crash. As a perfectionist and obsessive freak of Star Wars I could never enjoy it and watch it myself for what it is, as I only see the problem with it:




This is representative of how bad the LD look sometimes, but I want to color correct it, I will fix the colors on a new one or Chewtobacca or Mallwalker or Lucas or...
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Child is the Father of the ManAre those shots within seconds from each other or from separate discs/caps? In general, despite quality issues, I find the color pallet most pleasing on the Technidisc. If it were more consistent or could be applied to a different source of higher quality it would be my preferred look for the film.
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bkev said:
Are those shots within seconds from each other or from separate discs/caps?
No, sorry the ones at the bottom was just me doing a quick color correction to demonstrate the problem.
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Padawan LearnerLate to the party, but just saw this, it's really great thanks for doing it. (I got the '89 laser for about 2 bucks several years ago, never realized this one was different. Love the look of that source, whatever it is.) anyway, much appreciated.
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You're welcome, Baronlando. :) Unfortunately my capture of it is quite crude; the recorder captured it with a too low gamma, and I must admit that I did a quite lousy job when I set the contrast, combine that with the already wildly inconsistent contrast of the LD itself and you get a quite murky transfer. Don't know if it's something that can be partly corrected when playing with your TV-settings.
It's actually the above reasons that makes this transfer to look oversaturated and yellow, when corrected it's easier to see that it's mostly red/pink - shifted instead.
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msycamore said:
You're welcome, Baronlando. :) Unfortunately my capture of it is quite crude; the recorder captured it with a too low gamma, and I must admit that I did a quite lousy job when I set the contrast, combine that with the already wildly inconsistent contrast of the LD itself and you get a quite murky transfer. Don't know if it's something that can be partly corrected when playing with your TV-settings.
It's actually the above reasons that makes this transfer to look oversaturated and yellow, when corrected it's easier to see that it's mostly red/pink - shifted instead.
Thanks for capturing this LD msycamore (which I tracked down today), I played with the levels in image adjust on VLC in preparation to watch the whole film with just a little more contrast and lift the colours a tiny bit, this is solely based on how it improves it subjectivily via my laptop (it may look terrible for any other viewer). Here are the settings if any one wants to give them a go or tweak them further.
contrast 1.02, brightness 1.07, hue 0, saturation 1.04, gamma 0.72
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Regardless I'm grabbing this, it's good to have! And I know I'll enjoy watching it!
Thanks!
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You're welcome!
frank678, I'm pretty sure you can make it look slightly better when playing with the levels, but that's not how it's meant to be, sorry about that. The red and the saturation is definitely higher once Side 2 kicks in, that is right after Tarkin's "We will then crush the rebellion with one swift stroke" People's faces tends to burn in many places from then on. One place where the contrast goes out of whack is in the first part of the garbage compactor scene and then in the Death Star battle the levels are unfortunately all over the place. Oh, well. Even with these problems this LD is still one of my favorite video transfers of the film.
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is automatic for the people.I'm gonna be seeding this one for a bit.
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish memes.
Check out my reconstruction of the ROTJ Shooting Script
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I think I made the mistake of not shifting the hue enough before here is another stab:
V2 = 0.98, 1.04, 347, 1.04, 0.82
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