STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 613

That works well.

has anyone seen this? this is a reference to the Original Film Alterations made in the GOUT, SE, and DVD releases.

this link provides a look at the 1980,1997, and 2004 version of ESB

http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-two.html

Monroville said:

vaderios said:

see this:

And tell me

I would imagine it would be dark (as it is stated that nightfall is approaching) but that you may not be able to see too much detail, as there would be a lot of wind and snowstorm type activity outside.  I would also say that the Han outside shots need to be darkened (or at least how in some 80's films the upper half would be darkened - something to indicate that it is nearing nightfall).

Haven't had a chance to catch up here since 12th Dec. (apart from dropping by briefly with a Christmas day greeting), but things are less hectic now.  Hope all went well for everyone over the festivities.  Anyway, I just wanted to say that the 'Luke's rescue' preview clip released on the 16th was a pleasant surprise! Some terrific work once again Adywan.

As far as your mock-up above vaderios, the rest of the exterior scenes that are shown just after that entrance shot, such as the one below, aren't at that very darkened stage yet. 

Although Han told the Deck Officer "....It's getting dark out there" shortly before he went looking for Luke, it's unclear just how long it will take before any dark 'nightfall' occurs on Hoth.  But going by the shots that came afterwards, it doesn't seem to have fully arrived yet.  Ady's final colouring looks suitably atmospheric in his clip though....

....and although a subtler version of Jaitea's excellent 'blizzard' mock-up would be neat in the various shots of the outside to tie-in with the other Hoth scenes at this point....if it doesn't work out, then I'd just be pleased to see the outside SE 'blueness' toned down a little to match the more subdued colour of the one in the GOUT a little more even....to better match with Ady's great re-colouration of the Hoth scenes that come just afterwards -

Loved those fur shots by the way.  'Hair straighteners' - inspired!  :)

Will you be adding a little encrusted 'ice' effect to your Wampa's fur in places eventually, like the original 1st appearance puppet has?  What did they originally use for that effect I wonder?

And great news on the monitor situation from Jacen.

Monroville said:

Also, is it me or is the entrance here much smaller than the one the Falcon escapes from?

You know, here's an idea... as someone suggested a while back, there could be multiple entrances.  I suggest putting the larger opening the Falcon escapes from BEHIND the Falcon in some of the scenes, indicating that this opening is a smaller one for the Taun-Taun patrol, as well as give the larger ships a larger opening to leave out of

at scene 2:08 you can see how wide the doors/opening is; should it be much bigger/wider?  maybe if at the least the area on the left is pushed off and the center point of the doors closing is put much further to the left side of the screen (which would be enough to account for a larger opening that would allow the Falcon a way out).  Or the door behind Chewie could be pushed to the right... anything to make the doors/ cave entrance big enough for the Falcon escape scene.

There's certainly two different entrances/exits mentioned....since we hear the Deck Officer tell Han "It's possible he came through the south entrance" and also "Sir, Commander Skywalker hasn't come in the south entrance". 

Then later, at the start of Leia's orders to the pilots she says "All troop carriers will assemble at the north entrance"

This could account for the differring look of the entrance exteriors in the movie, but I'm unsure about which is which, and what one the Falcon exits from. 

Are there any east and west entrances to the base too, or not, I wonder?

:::Noted for Policy Shift:::

Ha, you just beat me to posting that image Ganamae.  :)

Wishing everyone here a very happy New Year for 2010.

The conditions are very 'Hoth'-like here in the Highlands at present.  Slange!

I'm surrounded with snow turned to thick ice here I've hardly been outside since my Christmas flight to visit the folks went pear shaped.

I've spent most of the time playing Animal Crossing and making virtual (and nihilistic) snowmen indoors where it's nice and warm.

Amazing clip Ady, can't believe how clear and sharp you've made it, I've got your AVCHD colour corrected Empire for the PS3, but this is totally different, its like when the restorers finish with an old painting, it's like watching a new movie!!

Can't wait till its done, all the best for 2010!!

J

Okay, before things get out of hand with the 'drams' here, since doubleofive got these (scarily blue!) SE DVD shots for me sooner than I expected, I thought I'd finish off these comments to squeeze on here before year's end.  Many thanks for these once again doubleofive.  :)

Adywan, there was loads of neat stuff on your 'Luke's rescue' clip that was previewed a couple of weeks ago, such as the likes of the Falcon further back in the hangar....the hangar door only moving once to close....Ben's force aura....the burn effect on the Taun-Taun's belly....and the fabulous re-colouring -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJD6fUC7VxY&feature=related

However, I was especially pleased about how the 2 re-'flipped' shots turned out, so I wanted to show a couple of other 'reversed' shots (among other things) to do with this portion of the movie your clip just happens to cover, that I don't recall being brought up fully before....

When Han first appears early on in the movie, we can clearly see here that there is no 'insignia' badge on the top-LEFT of his coat at this point, unlike later scenes....

....and his macrobinoculars are hanging beside his LEFT side, with it's strap slung over his RIGHT shoulder.  In addition, he happens to have a 'communicator' on his LEFT glove only (similar to Luke) and wears his gun holster strapped to his RIGHT side.  (note the yellow ladders beside the X-wing here, as I'll come back to this too)....

....when we see Han wearing this coat again later on (just before he jumps onto a Taun-Taun), we can see that there is still no 'insignia' badge on his coat, and that his macrobinoculars strap is still slung over his RIGHT shoulder as he sets off....

....a little later, when Luke scrambles fully out of the Wampa cave and starts running, we can see that he has now attached his lightsaber to his utility belt....

....but when we cut to him falling over a snowridge, it seems the lightsaber is missing when he gets to his feet before the end of the shot....

....we now come to the start of the 'Luke's rescue' clip that I linked to above.  This is our first view of Han since he left the Rebel Base to search for Luke.  He is still correctly wearing the macrobinocular strap over his RIGHT shoulder like when he first set off....  And his 'communicator' is still correctly on his LEFT glove too....

....a little later, just after Luke finally collapses, we cut to this shot of the stop-motion 'Han on Taun-Taun'.  I believe this to be a 'reversed' shot!  ....because we can now see the macrobinoculars are hanging at his RIGHT side instead, and the strap is slung over his LEFT shoulder now....  Now it could be argued that the miniature was wrongly dressed, or that Han took off his macrobinoculars since we saw last saw him earlier (as seen in the above shot), and put them back on differently....but things still end up wrong due to shots that follow....

....because we now immediately cut to what seems to be another 'reversed' shot too!  Although we can see that this matches the above shot because the macrobinoculars are on Han's RIGHT side, since the strap is over his LEFT shoulder....It's definately 'reversed'.   If you 'pause' this shot along with the previous earlier 'close-up' of Han holding the reigns, you can also compare the folds in Han's scarf and the snow on the Taun-Taun's visible horn to see this is the case.  This shot also now shows an 'insignia' badge (that was missing when he got on the Taun-Taun) which is on the wrong side to where it's actually meant to be, compared to shots that come after this....  I have to say that I'd love to see these 2 shots re-'flipped' rather than be a continuity flaw.  We soon get used to re-'flipped' shots, and I don't see these spoiling the look of the flow before and after.  Just my own 2 cents on this issue.

....so after Han dismounts and we immediately cut to the shot below, things are suddenly correct again, with Han's macrobinoculars on his LEFT side once more....

....and when we then immediately cut to this shot below, we can see that the macrobinocular strap is still correctly over his RIGHT shoulder, and that his gun holster is correctly strapped to his RIGHT leg, just as it was when he set off....

....just afterwards, we come to the scene below.  Remember that 2nd shot from the top, showing the X-wing prop with the 2 ladders either side of it that Han passes?  Well I believe this is the same prop....but you'll see that there is only a single, 'angled' yellow ladder on the other side of the cockpit to Leia now....

....which is fine, except when we immediately cut to the shot below, we now have another , 'vertical' yellow ladder beside Leia too....

....and here's a better look at it when we come to the shot a little later, where Leia walks away after the hangar doors are shut.  I don't know if it can be 'added', or 'erased' to be consistent in all these shots that Leia is in or not, but there it is.

....soon after, we cut from a 'circular fade' of Chewie's head in front of the now-closed hangar to this shot of Luke below which 'pans' to the left over him with his face turned to the LEFT.  This is yet another 'reversed' shot!  His gun holster has previously been on his RIGHT side, and his glove 'communicator' has been on his LEFT hand.  Also, his 'earpiece' has always previously been on his LEFT side of his head too.  They are all wrong in this shot now....  As has been noted, there is a lot more snow on his back compared to the shots that follow....but it's the fact that Luke is 'reversed' which is the bigger bugbear for me.  However, it's a problematic one to fix....

....because when we immediately cut to the shot below where everything is suddenly positioned correctly again....Luke's face is still turned to the LEFT....meaning that if the shot above was re-'flipped', it would have him facing to the RIGHT then before the cut.... 

....so Han finds him and dismounts, and we see that his macrobinoculars strap is still correctly over his RIGHT shoulder, as he goes over to help....

....although I'm convinced that his gloves are now BROWN instead of GREY during the 'close-up' where he asks Luke to give him a sign that he's okay!  Although it's hard to tell amongst all the blueness, they certainly seem a little different in this brief shot, but revert to GREY again afterwards.  Things look much better in the re-coloured 'clip' though, and it's no biggie compared to 'reversed' shots of course.

....and when Han drags Luke towards the Taun-Taun, the macrobinoculars are still correctly hanging by his LEFT side....

....but things went wrong again by the time we then cut to the shot below....but which has now been re-'flipped' correctly.  And this now correct-way-round confirms that the 'insignia' badge should be on the top-LEFT side of the coat all along, in the shots it appears in....  Personally, I'd rather see this 'erased' from all the shots for continuity's sake if possible, as I imagine 'adding' it in the various early scenes is impractical.

....and we immediately cut to yet another 'reversed' shot that has now thankfully been re-'flipped'....

....and when we then immediately cut to the shot below, Han's gun holster is still on his RIGHT side indicating all's correctly in place with him at this point....

....and correct when we cut here too, as the top-LEFT coat 'insignia' badge and LEFT glove 'communicator' are in the right place....

....and things still look correct in the the later shot where Han waves to the Snowspeeder that finds them.

That's your lot for now.

Happy hangovers everyone!

Darth Chronus

 said:.Happy New Year - you beat me to it; I have my iphone malfunctioning probably because it can't handle quotes, lol. I'm in Manchester - great fireworks.

Not much happenin' in Ulster , all the best fer 2010!!!!!!

J