I think everyone is starting to over analyse the battle now. We don't need explanations for everything that happens on screen, we can leave that to the PT. Isn't part of the fun of watching these original movies that you can use your imagination to explain things however way you think is right? What is happening to cinema when everything has to be laid out clearly? Has the cinema going audiences become so dumb in the past 30 years? No. So why does Hollywood continually churn out dumb movies that nothing is left to the imagination? I can just see Ric Olie piloting one of the speeders :
Ric Olie said:
" Oh look, the AT-AT has fallen over. And it looks like it has snapped it's neck and caused a weak spot. Maybe we should concentrate our fire at that spot. "
lol
vaderios said:
adywan said:
After looking at the scene again there is no possible way that the troops could have got out of the Walker in time. Not only would there be injures and others would be disorientated, but there is just no time between the Walker crashing and the speeders blowing it up for anything like this to happen.
Well yes.. you can always extend the shot slightly like you did with the bespin gantry. You can even add that camera projection technique or adding more elements that showing the scale. Since the backgrounds is a mess( as you already know) some alterations can be done here and there. The only matter is the music. Falling troopers or some small lasers from the walker or from inside/open hatches by snowtroopers can stand up.I think monroville said something similar(?)
-Angel
I don't want to extend any shots of the Hoth battle. The editing is perfect as is the score so i have no intention of extending anything in the battle just for a cool FX shot. If i did it would need to serve a purpose and not interupt the flow of the music, which extending a shot here would fail on both accounts.
ray_afraid said:
This is why I suggested cutting the explosion scene completely. It just doesn't add up. And all of the explanations take waay to much thought for such a quick scene. Having the walker fall over and then cutting to the rebel troops charging the battlefield is, in my opinion, the best option.
This would make no sense whatsoever. This is the rebels first little victory. They begin to think they can actually win this battle and then WHAM... they get their asses kicked. Take out the explosion and the scene falls flat.
Nerfherder said:
Arrived at the party late, so apologies if this has already been mentioned as a possibilty:
When the walker first collapses and the head hits the snow hard (perhaps an extra sound effect to reinforce the damage thats been done?) can you not instead show some energy 'sparks' around the entire head area (similar to force lightning) and this energy rapidly spreads to the main body which goes up with the aid of the snowspeeders firing upon it?
You're sort of close to what i have done to that shot , but i won't be saying what i have done until the film is released
Imrahil said:
It always bugged me that "T-47s" got retconned into meaning the Speeders. Why the hell would a medical droid worry about Speeders? In the original movie, the line is clearly meant to refer to some kind of MEDICAL devices:
2-1B: Sir, it will take quite a while to evacuate the T-47s.
Luke: Forget the heavy equipment..."
So we're supposed to assume that 2-1B is now evacuating snowspeeders? It's idiotic.
And this is why i chose to ignore the EU. 2-1B is clearly not talking about snowspeeders. Since when have vehicles been referred to as "heavy equipment"?
johnnythewolf said:
I suppose it has already been discussed some 400+ pages ago, but how about just adding some AA-ATs escorting the AT-ATs?
johnnythewolf said:
Ooops! I meant "AT-AA"...
no, there will be no EU vehicles in this edit. Like i have said before the EU doesn't exist to me. There was talk about adding more AT-ST's to the battle but this isn't going to happen. I have yet to see any CG home brew elements that can actually look realistic enough to match the studio AT-AT models on film(Which the AT-ST's would have to be CG unless studio scale stop-motion models were to be built and filmed, which is never going to happen). I've taken out the AT-ST's from the battle and i'm going to be leaving their first appearance for ROTJ