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Dangerous Incorporated said:

vbangle said:

Dangerous Incorporated said:

Can someone please tell me why the background to each of these shots was changed? Im sure its been mentioned somewhere in the last 300 pages but I dont see the need for any of these changes to be made. Im sure theres a logical explanation though.

 

It was changed because it looked like shit. Ady's new background matte is 1000% better.

 

I dont notice any difference in quality apart from the colour correction. All I see is the pic is different. Why couldnt the pics remain the same but the background just be fixed up to Ady's (and ya'lls) liking?

 

As I recall there are two main reasons -

Firstly the same sky / cloud / atmosphere backdrops were used for varying locations - sometimes simply mirrored. and secondly the layout of buildings show no sense of continuity when viewing the same location from various camera angles.

If you don't notice a difference then I guess that's a good thing since it shouldn't be distracting.

The top shot may have been done because same exact background is used when the people stop in the hallway and listened to Lando's evacuation announcement. Even though for that one it was used in reverse (flipped/mirrored)).

GoodMusician said:

would it be asking too much to have one of these hiding in a corner somewhere:

DAMMIT, DAMMIT, DAMMIT, DAMMIT, DAMMIT, DAMMIT, DAMMIT, DAMMIT, DAMMIT, DAMMIT!

i made this a few months ago (check out my deviant art)

vaderios said:

If you see carefully you will notice that the buildings in the background are not behind windows.

is like a balcony.

And yes it would be pain in the ass for ady to add the buildings, plus it ruins the awesome claustrophobic feeling.

 

-Angel

Edit: Lol

Tension sheets?

Dangerous Incorporated said:

vaderios said:

Dangerous Incorporated said:

Any screenshots of the background being recycled for other shots?

Oh noes I see flipped shots

-Angel

 

Now who woulda thought ILM would've been that lazy? Thanx for that Angel. I really gotta start paying attention. I obviously have never noticed that before.

 

So to annoy you guys more, why does Ady want this scene removed from the Revist edits?:

It doesnt detract from the pacing of the film.

 

The main reason he is cutting that one is because he is reinstating the "Bring my shuttle" line which most people think is better. Vader's shuttle is already there. I have lobbied to either have the shuttle painted or cropped out. It's just a 3 second shot &  I don't believe it hurts pacing, but others disagree with me.

adywan said:

but the trailer will be coming out on the 21st may to mark the greatest star wars movie and not the 19th so not a  bloody phatman menace celebration. lol

i just can't wait to get my hands on those PT moies so i can rip them to shreds.

HAHAHAHA

(can you tell i'm buzzing my tits off on painkillers at the moment? I cracked my whole canine tooth off and no chance of getting to a dentist anytime soon and the hsopital won't touch any dental work unless refered to them by a dentist. catch 22. thanks you the UK government for making our NHS so crap)

Off topic but here is my rundown of the prequels:

Episode I The Phantom Menance Grade D
Pros: The Pod Race, Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor fight against Darth Maul is the only thing that saved the movie from becoming a total disaster!
Cons:JarJar Binks(of course),Mitichondria did we really need a chemical description of the force and way too much sitcom. Anakin should have been the same actor throughout all 3 movies.

Episode II Attack of the Clones Grade C
Pros: Obiwan and Jango Fett conflict on the Kamino and in the asteroid field, Geonosis arena fight
Cons: Love scenes between Ankain and Amiadala(painful script writing and actoring) Yoda fighting Dooku(silly)

Episode III Revenge of the Sith Grade B
Pros: General Ginevous (awesome character) not sure what is up with the coughing? I did think he died a little to easily considering his reference in the clone wars episodes on the cartoon network.
Cons: I felt Samuel Jackson was over acting,Darth Vader "Nooo" and the fight between Obi-wan and Anakin(higher ground?)

AxiaEuxine said:

I gotta stop coming here, I never noticed that flipped shot before. That will bug the shit out of me now. Im gonna tell my self that Cloud city has symetrical architecture and thats why it looks the same...yeah thats it.

Looking at the two images side by side it does look like a U corner in a Maze.

Almost as if the Bespin residents are caught off guard by the troopers (there may be some tension to be had by having random Bespin residents A,B or C getting hit in the cross fire).

Deckard2, general Grievous is coughing because at the end Clone Wars cartoons, Mace Windu force squeezed his loungs while he was escaping with Palpaltine as a prisoner.

AxiaEuxine said:

adywan said:

i just can't wait to get my hands on those PT moies so i can rip them to shreds.

 

 gawd you depress me so much when you say things like that. I love ANHR and ESBR seems to be right on track as far as quality and vision goes. Yet your vision of the pequels seems to be the same as everyone elses and that means gutting them. With everything you've said that you are taking out of the prequels there doesnt seem to be enough material left for one movie, let alone three. Im just sad I wont have a revisited prequel trilogy to go along with the OTR.

 I somewhat agree on this, if you hate the prequels so much ady  what will there be left to show when you're done with them? lol

My main gripe about the prequels wasn't the plot(which I like) nor the special effects(with some exeptions like the cartoony characters in the podrace for example) but it was the VOICES  and poor delivery of the lines. While all of the voices in the OT where PERFECT(from James Earl jones to Harrison Ford and Ian McDiarmid and so on) the PT voices are horrible  like Natalie Portman(especially in TPM), Hayden, Pernilla August, Jake Lloyd and even Christopher Lee and Frank Oz. The only good ones were Ian McDiarmid(except when he turns to The Emperor) and Liam Neeson.

So a REDUB of of these characters would be what would help this trilogy the most  :)  mesa thinks ;)

I think because Ady will have Vader back to saying "bring my shuttle". So, him walking out and the shuttle already being there seems weird in connection ;)

In a way saving the prequels and Jedi (for those who feel they require salvation) is a more rewarding challenge.

ANH and ESB are so highly regarded that almost any proposed change will be met with heresy accusations by the faithful (just rewind to the blue/grey TIE Fighter debate).

The PT (and Jedi to a lesser extent) offer more options for change without stamping on sacred ground.

The flip side being that to bring them up in quality significantly requires more imagination and a lot more work.

I think the important thing to remember in this kind of project (and please correct me if I'm out of line here) is to figure out what the story is that was attempted to be told and rework each film so they tell those stories in a way consistent with what went before.

For example ANH and ESB have humour but it's a bit more sophisticated than the childish slapstick and toilet humour we saw in the PT and ROTJ.

TPM had a very similar story to tell as ANH but where ANH takes us through that story in a linear fashion TPM darts all over the place.

A reworking of the PT and Jedi doesn't have to be a gutting exercise (apparently early edits of ANH were just as problematic as the PT).

Shifting elements around and replacing what is beyond repair can tell the same stories but in a way that sits better (not that I'm against projects which tell very different stories too but these projects don't seem to be in that vein).

I shall stop now as this is the ESB:R thread but I'm looking forward (a long way off) to seeing what Ady and others do with PT perhaps even more than I'm looking forward to this project (and this one is going to be like several childhood Christmases arriving at once).