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Snarf.
Can't watch the teaser yet, but lookin forward to that when I get home.
Honestly, Empire is a near perfect film in my opinion (even the SE now that Luke's bizarre 1997 scream is gone) and besides colour correction, I can't think of anything that really needs changing.
However, anything you add I'm sure I will be pleasantly surprised to see.
More walkers/speeders in the Hoth battle and more TIEs in the Falcon chase would add to tension I suppose.
Boba's voice was fine in either version I thought, won't bother me either way.
The Emperor's new hologram I agree could use some work. I don't think it's that bad, but I'm really interested to see how you tackle that.
And I'm sure there are little technical issues and crap that could use tidying up.

Good luck with this!

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Downloading the trailer right now. I haven't posted here much, but I have been lurking was anticipating the first revisted project since I first found it. I watched it and loved it. There was wonderful new life brought to the film. I'm eagerly awaiting Empire, whenever it comes. I can't think of much to fix, but I trust your judgement. You can make it better...somehow.

Only stuff I can really pick out are the two RotJ shots (I like Vader walking to his shuttle, but not the other stuff). Any chance of restoring all music?

Keep up the fantastic work.

(What's the source for this one? DVD or HD?)
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Ady,

I am speechless...The battle of Hoth will definitely ROCK!!!

Love the trailer!!

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Love the additional AT-ATs, Ady. As long as Vader doesn't have a pink lightsaber in your version I'll be absolutely thrilled!!!
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Is it me or did you fix the Tauntaun animation?

That was the only really glaring SFX from the original movie for me.

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now the agonizing wait begins again

The colors look great!

I'm sure this has been mentioned on some other thread - but restoring the 'you're lucky you don't taste very good' Luke/R2 on Dagobah line would be great.

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Ady,

So glad I wont miss the opportunity to share this time around, the Hoth battle updates look AWESOME!!!! Agree entirely on the Emporer changes, Boba Fett voice changes are good idea. Some sugggestions...

1. Maybe adding emotes to Yoda like you did Greedo/Cantina characters

2. Remove Luke screaming when he lets go of ledge... (Biggest change Lucas added that I hate)

3. Maybe adding some Duel of Fates music to Bespin?

4. The Bounty Hunter Scene, could use emotes or possible updated Bounty Hunters/Droids?

5. After Han is tortured maybe his cloths are burnt or scored (there were some kind of electrical sparks going on if I remember correctly).

Other than that I cant think of anything now other than the GREAT color correctiopns you've done and the saber/engine rotoscoping. The Hoths battle I think is the biggest are that can be pumped up. Thanx for your hard work!!!!

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Originally posted by: sketchrob

3. Maybe adding some Duel of Fates music to Bespin?


....mirroring the Obi/Qui Gon vs Maul scene from Ep1.

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Well... the color-correction looked really good Ady. Maybe I'm just being "anal" here, but Yoda's neon-green skin bugged me in the DVDs. Maybe you could make him look something like he's shown in Paul's Vintage Edit?
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Just watched the trailer. That little bit is already lookin gorgeous. I liked the walkers.

Hopefully the line "Bring my shuttle" will reappear as well. The delivery was so much more appropriate, Vader sounded like he was pissed.
And as mentioned earlier, anything that can be done to smooth the animation of the Tauntauns will be welcome.

Are you going to include a Kershner cameo? That would rock.

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Great teaser! The color correction is excellent, only Yoda looks a bit too green/blue. The walkers are as they should be, in great numbers showing the scale of the attack. The hologram is a nice blend o the two existing versions. The tauntaun movement looks smoother, but I didn't check. You are getting better by the edit Ady
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Going just on memory, the Emperor does look a little better. Did you change it, or am I insane? Also, if you did change it...what exactly did you do? Squeeze it a little to make his face thinner, or what?
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I don't know if this has been mentioned on other threads or not but the part where Leia and Han decide to go to Bespin to hide out. They look at a computer readout that supposedly lists a bunch of star systems. It would be intresting to see a quick shot of the readout they are looking at. Also during Vaders Bounty hunter briefing, it would be cool to see more movement from some of the characters. IG-88 and the lizard man hardly move or chow any kind of expression at all.

EDIT: sketchrob allready mention the bounty hunter briefing.

Oh and BTW, awsome trailer Ady. The added AT-AT's really pumped up the Hoth battle scene.
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Is there any way that shot of the Shuttle landing in the bay can be kept? I liked how it turned out, I also loved the new cloud city background when Vader is walking to his Shuttle, but it can't be there because if the "Bring my Shuttle" line is added back it has to be cut because his shuttle is already there, but is there a way to still show Vader walking (long SE side view) to the pad, without the shuttle there, maybe somehow paint it out? People complain about the flow being interrupted, but I think if these same scenes were there to begin with in 1980 very few would have wanted them removed.



*Fix the boom mike reflection in Luke's goggles on the TaunTaun.
*Make the articulation on the TaunTaun's eyes better and smoother.
*Make the Wampa's fingers move and come in better contact with Luke's face when it knocks him off the TaunTaun. They are completely stationary.
*Fix the (one second or so, far left screen) of the Wampa puppeteer's arm showing when the the Wampa chokes the TaunTaun.
*In the Hoth base scene where Han' yells "Deck Officer!" inquring if Skywalker had reported in yet, if you look close at C3PO's chin where it meets the neck you can see the skin of Anthony Daniel's chin almost throughout that entire scene. This can be blacked out I am sure.

*The Hoth base doors start to close in the back ground (Chewbacca near close up shot) before they are announced to, and then seconds later they start again after they are announced to be closed.
*Remove the stick pushing up at the back foot of the AT-AT to tip it over. Also add Luke somewhere in the shot as he fell just below it.
*Give Bossk and some of the other aliens more facial articulation as you did with the Cantina.
*Much more sky traffic in Cloud City after Lando advises everyone to leave the city. When they are leaving in the falcon we should see several ships taking off in the background because of Lando's announcement.
*Notice when Slave I blasts off, and later the Falcon, the backgrounds are the same buildings, same patterns of clouds and all, even though they are on different platforms.
* In some long shots of the city, the same cloud patterns are reused, like when the SE floating Tibianna gas platform is shown and another shot used at another time is practically a flipped negative shot of that one, minus the Gas platform and cloud patterns are same.

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if you remove the episode designations from the crawls, we could rule the galaxy as father and son.

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1. NO ADDING "DUEL OF THE FATES" to Bespin duel for a simple reason: Duel of the Fates' feel fits to a situation of a very fast - paced dramatic life-and-death duel with lots of acrobatics etc. It doesn't fit well to Luke's duel with Vader which has a scary claustrophobic feel and heavy light sabre movements remind more on Roman sabers then fencing sabers. We know that Vader is playing game with Luke: he doesn't want to kill him, but to bring him to the dark side first. So, it's not a clear life and death- duel.

1.2 Original score for that scene was composed but not used for a good reason: this duel is much scarier without the music just as well Wampa is scarier if one doesn't see it.

1.3 Third reason for not adding this would be that it could be used only in two cuts in the Carbon Chamber and not on later already scored duel - parts. That means, it would appear pomposly at the main Carbon Chamber, destroy a claustrophobic feel and not get anywhere (to culminate) after that (in all other movies it does, even in adywan's NewHopeRevisited).

1.4 Fourth reason for not doing this is to avoid "bastard - scoring" which never happened on SW until postproduction of AOTC, which has a lot of TPM - music in the battle (you can read about that in a score - thread of a member "good musician").

2. Pissed "BRING MY SHUTTLE" line should be back but also trying to save walking on the bridge-wideshot afterwards, with shuttle erased from the scene. Maybe it could work well, if not, please leave it like the original (1980).

2.1 VADER'S ARRIVAL TO STARDESTROYER was ok in the SE but the use of music at that scene made the movie STOP and stormtroopers in the background looked fake. If a lot of people incl. adywan still want this scene to remain in the movie after all, this two issues should be solved very properly because on that point of drama there is no place for any conceptual or technical mistakes of any kind. I could try to make a few musicmix - models for that scene to use something which keeps the feeling on the move

3. Before the Hoth - battle, "Imperial Fleet coming out of lightspeed" is mentioned. We don't have to see it coming out of light speed because Vader gets pissed because of it anyway, but it would be great TO SEE THE FLEET in the Hoth system, to feel that power on some point before or during the battle. It also doesn't need a big introduction because it was already introduced before.

3.1 There could be more shots of rebel ships escaping the system (there is a whole rebel base evacuating!!!!!) and some out-of-order-stardestroyers due to ion cannon-shots, for example , when Luke flies out to space.

4. There were more of that IMPERIAL 2-LEG-WALKERS (later to be seen a bit modified much more in Endor - Battle in ROTJ) planned during the ESB filming, but due to time and money problems never finished (look for that in "Building Empire"- documentary). There is only one shot in Empire using this walkers and there should be more of them around accompaing At-At's in almost every floor-shot At-At - scene. Also, shooting snowspeeders could destroy some of them when shooting. This would be an improvement in the style of your improvements on ep4 - Yavin battle.

5. Making that annoying TAUNTAUN STOP-MOTION corrections may be complicated, but worthy doing.

6. BESPIN should not look as giant as Coruscant, but like a small mining colony. It helpes the claustrophobic no-way-out feeling of our suffering protagonists. Some of the most beloved movies happen in some closed space, like Nakatomi building in "Die Hard", or Nostromo in "Alien", or Alcatraz - Island in "The Rock". Bespin is also that kind of place and should not be made to New York with every new edition. That SE wideshot - scene after Lando's warning-speech looks already too big and out of place with too many people walking outside reacting weirdly synchronised. Can you erase some buildings and people from that scene to fit better and look more natural? Also, on some later point seeing ships evacuating would be great but again, in a tasteful logical size (I noticed anyway, adywan has a very good sense for the right measure).

6.1 If any new backgrounds made for anything, it should be tasteful and size -fitting.

6.2 That SE computer-flying-shot of Bespin-by-day should be softened in movement to fit the rest of the movie, not suddenly looking like a computergame-intro with unorganic camera turns etc.

7. Before entering Vader- Restaurant in Bespin we see windows in the background. After catching Solo's gun, stormtroopers arrive and there are no windows any more but decoration. Please repair that SE mistake by PUTTING ONLY DECORATION, because again, it helpes the claustrophobic feel more then windows and beautiful sunny day outside.

8. RE-COLORING OF CLOUDS, especially dark parts. This SE - syntethic blue-grey looks weird.

9. Kerschner's decisions about human reactions in actors interactions as well as audience response on this and that were all right in the place - that's what made Empire such a good movie, because Heroes and Villains really care. One of ideas which came from that wise and very natural approach was NOT SEEING ACTUAL WAMPA. I would stick to that decision. I don't want to see that documentary - shot of him eating and prepairing for winter. I want to escape from there ASAP, and that's what I want Luke to do!

If I remember or notice something else, I'll post it later. Thank you adywan for collecting ideas. I hope, you'll have fun with it and make that most beautiful photographed movie ultimate edition for most of fans.
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-1 thing I would like to see, are more Snow troops added to the ground battle. But, i don't think that is even possible.
-The CG to matte paintings of the buildings in Cloud City tend to change behind the Falcon as it Arrives.

I can't think of anything else, but if I do, It will probably be ridiculous

 

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Amazing...that is all I have to say
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TESB is an almost-perfect film in it's original 1980 incarnation. The 97 SE is wrong on so many levels, and the 04 SE is only slightly better.

What I'm hoping gets changed for Ady's version:

* Color-correction. Snow should be white, not blue.
* Vader's pissed "Bring my shuttle" line
* Original Boba voice
* Subtle effects to Taun-Tauns, and bounty hunters. Don't touch Yoda though.
* Remove shot of Vader landing on the star destroyer taken from ROTJ
* Luke's scream was wisely removed from the 04 SE, keep it that way
* "You're lucky you don't taste very good" should be restored
* I could go either way with the Wampa.
* Larger ground battle on Hoth

After seeing what you did to ANH, I am sure we will all be blown away by what you do to ESB
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this is so exciting
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Originally posted by: ThrowgnCpr
this is so exciting


Threepio: "Exciting is hardly the word I would choose..."

Ady, your dedication to correcting the Saga is amazing. You rock, my friend. Can't wait to see this. At least we'll have the DVD-5 and DVD-9s of ANH:Revisited to tide us over until then
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Will you be using all HD sources? If so, it would rock to have an HD release along with the dvd's. Looking good. I like the snow! I had a hard time with that...

You can go about your business. Move along, move along.

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In my opinion, I don't think you should remove the new Boba Fett voice, it works very well. As well is keep continuity with the prequels, something I know you want. I don't think it should be removed just to remove it. It could be argued that if you were going to keep the old voice for Boba you should keep the old voice of The emperor. In any case it's a keeps of revisionism that I don't think hurts the film in any way.
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Wampa is scarier if one doesn't see it.

But weve seen it now!

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