Jacobss
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Rough idea of getting OT feeling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UhjZJSVSaU
Look only at content - it's only a rough idea...
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"The greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the fanedit community." - Probably Anti-MatterKinda cool.. But unnecessary to me. I would rather make the films rhyme by using the same methods of making a film that the OT applied. If that makes any sense.
Jacobss
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Another idea from me:
Palpatine reveals himself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUFptjizGXE
As always, it's a rough idea. My goal was to make Anakin more mature, show his shock about revelation and cut as many unnecessery dialogue as possible. Also I though it was necessery to cut everything about Padme, because generally this considered to be lame. Anakin is turning to the dark side, because he wants more power. Not because he wants to save his wife. In this video, I only wanted Palpatine to reveal himself step by step. Without begging Anakin to join him. He just wants that Anakin will think about him. Anakin doesn't kill him, because he knows him for too long. He is just shocked and does his Jedi responsibility - letting counsel to decide. He realizes later that the anger he felt, when he looked at Palpatine with his lightsaber is what he wants and what gives him power. I think less is sometimes more.
There are two things in this scene, which always bothered me - music and too much unnecessary dialoge. Considering limited amount of footage, with my poor technical editing skills, I was doing my best.
Some may wonder why I post it in this thread. Well, first of all, I'm trying to give the Cutter some inspiration. Second, I'm hoping that a little traffic will bring him back here :).
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Jacobss said:
Another idea from me:
Palpatine reveals himself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUFptjizGXE
As always, it's a rough idea. My goal was to make Anakin more mature, show his shock about revelation and cut as many unnecessery dialogue as possible. Also I though it was necessery to cut everything about Padme, because generally this considered to be lame. Anakin is turning to the dark side, because he wants more power. Not because he wants to save his wife. In this video, I only wanted Palpatine to reveal himself step by step. Without begging Anakin to join him. He just wants that Anakin will think about him. Anakin doesn't kill him, because he knows him for too long. He is just shocked and does his Jedi responsibility - letting counsel to decide. He realizes later that the anger he felt, when he looked at Palpatine with his lightsaber is what he wants and what gives him power. I think less is sometimes more.
There are two things in this scene, which always bothered me - music and too much unnecessary dialoge. Considering limited amount of footage, with my poor technical editing skills, I was doing my best.
Some may wonder why I post it in this thread. Well, first of all, I'm trying to give the Cutter some inspiration. Second, I'm hoping that a little traffic will bring him back here :).
Not bad, but Palpatine shouldn't act that evil towards Anakin.
Jacobss
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Why not? Palpatine is not a nice uncle. He is a Sith Lord for God's sake! With his final revelation, there is nothing more to hide.
In the original cut, he is a nice uncle at this point. But, a few hours later, he kills Jedi without any problems, gives order 66 and convert republic into galactic empire. This totally contradicts his character. Of course, you would say he was doing that to manipulate Anakin, so there is no contradiction in his character. The problem is, it makes Anakin dumb as wood. There is a Sith Lord standing before him, who has killed millions of people and he believe's that he is ok? How naive you have to be? This is exactly unbelievable like when Palpatine kills Windu and tells Anakin, that he does not have the power to save Padme. Of course Anakin does nothing and accept that, being a five year old naive child.
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"The greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the fanedit community." - Probably Anti-MatterJacobss said:
Why not? Palpatine is not a nice uncle. He is a Sith Lord for God's sake! With his final revelation, there is nothing more to hide.
In the original cut, he is a nice uncle at this point. But, a few hours later, he kills Jedi without any problems, gives order 66 and convert republic into galactic empire. This totally contradicts his character. Of course, you would say he was doing that to manipulate Anakin, so there is no contradiction in his character. The problem is, it makes Anakin dumb as wood. There is a Sith Lord standing before him, who has killed millions of people and he believe's that he is ok? How naive you have to be? This is exactly unbelievable like when Palpatine kills Windu and tells Anakin, that he does not have the power to save Padme. Of course Anakin does nothing and accept that, being a five year old naive child.
I agree. However, while this idea is interesting I fail to see how it would fix the above problem in the narrative.
rpvee
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Jacobss said:
Why not? Palpatine is not a nice uncle. He is a Sith Lord for God's sake! With his final revelation, there is nothing more to hide.
In the original cut, he is a nice uncle at this point. But, a few hours later, he kills Jedi without any problems, gives order 66 and convert republic into galactic empire. This totally contradicts his character. Of course, you would say he was doing that to manipulate Anakin, so there is no contradiction in his character. The problem is, it makes Anakin dumb as wood. There is a Sith Lord standing before him, who has killed millions of people and he believe's that he is ok? How naive you have to be? This is exactly unbelievable like when Palpatine kills Windu and tells Anakin, that he does not have the power to save Padme. Of course Anakin does nothing and accept that, being a five year old naive child.
The reason Anakin believes him to be ok in the original is because of how slowly Palpatine reveals himself. If Palpatine acts cold and evil towards Anakin immediately, how in heck is he expecting Anakin to side with him (originally the point of the whole scene)? You're forsaking the Dark Side seduction aspect for the sake of Palpatine acting evil.
Loconut
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Cutter, How are things progressing? I hope you haven't given up.
Hope to hear from you soon...
darth_ender
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTI got a PM from him a couple of weeks ago. He says he's very busy, bu the hasn't given up. Hopefully he comes back to the land of the living sometime soon.
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
Bingowings
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Magister Pontifex MaximusYou mean I'm still alive?
So I can go outside without melting?
Oh man!
Say goodbye, to all this and "hello" to Jason Issacs.
The Aluminum Falcon
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Slayer of DeaditesHope this edit reaches full completion. It really is interesting... especially the major dialogue and music changes, which some editors shirk away from.
Loconut
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Indeed. I still hope Cutter will release his score as mp3s too.
gobalicious
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His videos have disappeared from YouTube. Hopefully he gets working again soon. It would be a shame if all of his brilliant ideas were lost. We really need to get a repository going of all the prequel edit videos. This isn't the first time this has happened (e.g. SSWR's videos).
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¤°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°¤gobalicious said:
His videos have disappeared from YouTube. Hopefully he gets working again soon. It would be a shame if all of his brilliant ideas were lost. We really need to get a repository going of all the prequel edit videos. This isn't the first time this has happened (e.g. SSWR's videos).
YouTube removed his videos. A guy too reported him to Youtube about his padme is still alive video.
He will continue this edit very later this year.
-Angel
(♥Io♥)
darth_ender
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTThat is good news indeed.
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
marioxb
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Look at the picture to see what the XB is MarioXB stands for!Angel said:
gobalicious said:
His videos have disappeared from YouTube. Hopefully he gets working again soon. It would be a shame if all of his brilliant ideas were lost. We really need to get a repository going of all the prequel edit videos. This isn't the first time this has happened (e.g. SSWR's videos).
YouTube removed his videos. A guy too reported him to Youtube about his padme is still alive video.
He will continue this edit very later this year.
-Angel
Good thing I downloaded all of his videos then!
darth_ender
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTYou did?! Then you must upload them at a safer place, like Vimeo! I don't like it when brilliant ideas and their creators disappear. I personally have corresponded with Cutter and he states he will return, but I'd hate for him to change his mind with no backup plan.
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
marioxb
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Look at the picture to see what the XB is MarioXB stands for!OK, good idea! I will do that as soon as possible.
marioxb
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Look at the picture to see what the XB is MarioXB stands for!Here is The Cutter's first post in this topic, with the Youtube links replaced with mediafire:
The Cutter said:
Hello everybody
I open this topic to present my edit of ROTS that I started several years ago (still work in progress : 90 %)
Rather than making a list of modifications I prefer presented my work through several videos.original film name: Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith
edit film name: Revenge Of The Cut
source : DVD - Star Wars soundtracksedited by The Cutter / The Kcutter
Part 1 Space Battle :
http://www.mediafire.com/?x801ouzw6nwrt8i
Video dedicated to my sound design on the Space Battle :
http://www.mediafire.com/?m8c8nkig9gdankd
Part 2 Grievous new voice / landing sequence :
http://www.mediafire.com/?98trrmew98ezjm5
Part 3 Duel with Dooku and escape
http://www.mediafire.com/?zgejsjurynb4odv
Part 4 Padme's revelation / Grievous speaks to Sidious (new voice)
http://www.mediafire.com/?bqczdeszuwy2ebe
The Death of Dooku (V2)- Prompt execution, no hesitation.. :
http://www.mediafire.com/?x4cnfjm2u3y5c4d
The Surfer Dude Fed voice test ! :
http://www.mediafire.com/?4dsvk10vycjra86
Part 5 Anakin's dream
http://www.mediafire.com/?j0i08atp7gw66u3
Part 6 - Obi-wan confronts Grievous :
http://www.mediafire.com/?2itd6prjvtzx69t
Part 7A Mace confronts Palpatine / Sidious revealed - cutting process only
http://www.mediafire.com/?dc8giyi55a1ms9j
Part 7B Mace confronts Palpatine / Sidious revealed
http://www.mediafire.com/?419x6t4qmkracx2
Part 8 - Darth Vader first strike
Here are all of (I think) The Cutter's other vids related to this edit:
Blu-ray Special Edition 40th anniversary of Star Wars 2017
http://www.mediafire.com/?v66vk52a3bifx92
Flash special - Just an idea
http://www.mediafire.com/?1dkf7jhbfp5pek6
Goodbye old friend - Obi-Wan and Anakins theme
http://www.mediafire.com/?m9vlfek4sbkhttp
I am glad that you chose to serve
http://www.mediafire.com/?pxxpodam54439rt
I know... V3
http://www.mediafire.com/?np3nxijykvf3231
Mace Confronts Palpatine/ Sidious revealed V2
http://www.mediafire.com/?oiops32d3q75bt2
Musical Vision Part 1 - The birth of the twins
http://www.mediafire.com/?j7mdwg4rk87jvnm
Musical Vision Part 2 - The one who returned
http://www.mediafire.com/?hlmr33h9wkjp3fa
Musical Vision Part 3 - Droids mind wiped
http://www.mediafire.com/?b10ynuik699rrad
Musical Vision Part 4 - The true birth of Darth Vader
http://www.mediafire.com/?fcmcqo9o0bekpzc
Musical Vision Part 5 - His fate will be the same as ours
http://www.mediafire.com/?vqaeedeclcf352d
Musical Vision Part 6 - Darth Vader First Strike
http://www.mediafire.com/?a5vdk6momri9ns3
Musical Vision Part 7 - Destroy the sith we must
http://www.mediafire.com/?i15iq3pmyivlapp
New idea for Darth Vader first strike
http://www.mediafire.com/?j06imr5mdch6gmm
New Perception of Dagobah
http://www.mediafire.com/?0uvi521odf67n0b
New Perception of Dagobah V2
http://www.mediafire.com/?9s06og8k22qrqax
Padme is still alive
http://www.mediafire.com/?1d57u12kw8tz4cb
She no longer has any meaning for me master
http://www.mediafire.com/?1j9t6k871pxu5w3
Soundtrack - Consumed by the Dark Side
http://www.mediafire.com/?do4sa7rn34c4zy2
Soundtrack - Obi-Wan and Anakins theme
http://www.mediafire.com/?hdwr0vb44zf9ppm
The true birth of Darth Vader - Teaser Trailer
http://www.mediafire.com/?cd0vz2l21bbhux4
The Cutter said:
Yes no problem ! : )
Here is a video I have posted on another youtube account a few months ago.
Silverkey, with this you will perfectly understand my point :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKtuWpreKDU
another dedicated to Obi-wan :
Loconut
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Thanks marioxb! I always like some insight in the creative decisions.
marioxb
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Look at the picture to see what the XB is MarioXB stands for!Yeah, no problem. I can't wait for this edit to come out. I was going to use vimeo to upload the videos, but it wanted me to give explanations on why they shouldn't be deleted and bla bla bla.
Loconut
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Cutter, any updates dude? :)
emanswfan
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The Cutter's back! And he's got two new clips for you guys!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh01WVvCafQ&feature=channel&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GvpT_7BMAc&feature=channel&list=UL
darth_ender
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTOoh, exciting! He's had some great audio ideas.
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
Bingowings
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Magister Pontifex MaximusThe bit where Palpatine tells us what happened in act one needs to go too.
One assumes that Mace has already been briefed and we don't need to be.
I'd keep the bit about Grievous getting away again though (he would naturally moan about it and as a politician would want to be seen to be getting the job finished by leaning on the right people).
I'd drop Anakin using one of Han's lines. Probably the trembling reference. It just sounds too much like Star Wars quotes the greatest hits to have two right next to each other.
The music doesn't quite fit for the Grievous scene.
For one thing it's so obviously from a prominent OT scene that it's distracting.
The tone is right though if you can find something similar.
I'd remove the choral blasts though they are too push button.
Add instead a metallic thump (maybe like the percussive steps of the powerloaders from Aliens) in time with each footfall of the general.
Why not have Sidious tell the General that Lord Vader will soon join them?
He would already have the name in his head and he is a counting his chickens before they've hatched sort of guy as we find out in ROTJ.
You might be able to generate some sort of interest out of speculating who this Vader chap is going to be.
Say goodbye, to all this and "hello" to Jason Issacs.