xhonzi said:

However it still is the matter of some debate, as CatBus has illuminated. 

You give me too much credit.  It really isn't up for that much debate, I was just arguing that point because I became enamored with the idea of the "Vader never gets redeemed and Luke is a gullible putz" ending.  I still do like it, but it's ultimately not supported by all of the facts (force ghosts pretty much undermine it).

I may wish Lucas ended up writing something different, but if wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak.

xhonzi said:

imperialscum said:

Bingowings said:

Planet Killing Space Station CHECK

Of course there was a planet killing station. Should imps start to build refrigerators instead?

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WRONG SHIRT!

It's not real... yet.  It was in a photoshop contest.  Before about a dozen people put it on my facebook page.

I know I'm dredging up old shit here, but on the old topic of X-Wings/Pilots/Luke/w/e, if you wanna argue the EU side, the X-Wing was originally an Incom design for the Empire. The Rebels stole some of the prototypes and then stole "several squadrons" of the production fighters right before Yavin, which makes it feel like they did indeed have more ships than pilots.

If you wanna argue straight films, it's shown in the films that Y-Wings have top turret that's controlled by someone in a rear seat. I feel like if they had more pilots (or even personnel) than ships, they'd have put people in those turrets because it would have bought the Y-Wings more time in the trench (I assume they could have taken out Vader's escort TIEs if not the man himself).

But then, of course, at the medal ceremony you see about a hundred more people in pilot gear so either they were just in training or they didn't have enough ships or the Rebels are dumb.

It's all kind of a weird situation.

I don't want to argue the EU side... they don't even have a name or full biography of the force kick guy but they have Daleks in Star Wars???

Bollux to that.