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RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK:

 

THE 1980 FILM VERSION edit

 

 

The Empire Strikes Back score edited for the film is slightly different to what it is on the releases, everybody knows that. But in what is it different, what was really used and was not and for what reason ?… Hard to know with such a complex score. I always thought it was just full of simple cuts, and I was wrong.

The music has been sometime cut and faded, but also some scenes have been sometime re-scored through editing for a very efficient and enjoyable rendering of the scene.

The film version avoids repetitions of alternate segments you have put together on the entire score presented on the SE’s. Indeed, the score may appear quite heavy in its complete form compared to what you hear in the movie.

 

The present set has been edited from the OT Soundracks Salvage & Restoration (except for the new concert versions), and most of the volumes have been revised and so the whole of it has been now fully equilibrated from this point of view. Some tracks has been once more, but slightly, re-equalized.

… Note that what you’ll find here is not a complete score though there’s very few missing, but I guess if anyone wished to make a real complete score, there’s no doubt he’ll find here the last missing pieces to his collection !

 

Anyway, there’s no better experience than listening for yourself to make your own idea.

Before you ask any question, you’ll find some more infos by playing this new game: that’s called “hit the smiley !”… It’s quite a little hidden but it’s here.

 

CD 1 (74'40") :

 

1. 20TH CENTURY FOX FANFARE 0:22

2. MAIN TITLES / HOTH SYSTEM 3:59

film version edit

3. HAN SOLO'S DEPARTURE 1:33

film version cut

4. THE WAMPA'S LAIR / OBI-WAN'S VISION 4:10

film versions cut but edited as a single track

5. SNOWSPEEDERS 1:03

film version edit

6. ABOARD THE EXECUTOR 1:48

film version edit

7. DRAWING THE BATTLE LINES 4:02

original - stereo channels corrected

8. BATTLE IN THE SNOW 3:13

film version cut - remastered from ot soundtracks salvage

9. LUKE'S FIRST CRASH 4:08

10. THE REBELS ESCAPE AGAIN 2:59

11. THE ASTEROID FIELD 4:12

remastered from the RSO CD release (sounds less corrupted and more natural than any other versions)

12. CRASH LANDING ON DAGOBAH 3:38

remastered from ot soundtracks salvage

13. A FAMILIAR PLACE 1:22

remastered from ot soundtracks salvage

14. LUKE'S NOCTURNAL VISITOR 0:42

film version cut - remastered from ot soundtracks salvage

15. HAN SOLO AND THE PRINCESS / VADER AND THE EMPEROR 3:25

16. JEDI MASTER REVEALED 2:10

film version cut

17. MYNOCK CAVE 2:27

film version cut + remastered

18. THE MAGIC TREE 3:32

film version edit - added the missing synth (RSO LP)

19. ATTACKING A STAR DESTROYER / YODA'S TEACHINGS 3:03

20. YODA AND THE FORCE 4:02

original version (not the raw film version ending)

21. IMPERIAL STARFLEET DEPLOYED 0:52

film version cut

22. THE CITY IN THE CLOUDS 4:05

film version cut - last part replaced with 7FN RSO LP

23. LANDO'S PALACE / LUKE'S PROMISE 3:51

24. LEIA'S WORRIES 1:00

25. LANDO AND HAN 0:40

26. BETRAYAL AT BESPIN 1:03

27. TORTURE 0:59

28. DEAL WITH THE DARK LORD 2:34

29. CARBON FREEZE 2:39

 

 

CD 2 (77'37") :

 

1. LUKE PURSUES THE CAPTIVES 3:34

film version cut + remastered

2. DEPARTURE OF BOBA FETT 1:51

film version edit + light mixing with the RSO for the flutes

3. THE CLASH OF LIGHTSABERS 4:15

4. LOSING A HAND 5:20

5. HYPERSPACE 4:02

6. FINALE / END CREDITS 6:49

film version beginning, but extented with the RSO missing part, so not the exact film version wich is cut

 

UNUSED & ALTERNATE MUSIC:

 

7. THE IMPERIAL MARCH (DARTH VADER'S THEME) 3:00

8. THE ICE PLANET (COMPLETE) 8:15

completed with the missing bit

9. LOST IN THE SNOW / SEARCH FOR LUKE 3:01

two unused cues edited as one track

10. SNOWSPEEDERS 1:46

added the RSO percussions

11. THE IMPERIAL FLEET / VADER FANFARE 2:27

two unused parts edited as one track

12. LUKE'S NOCTURNAL VISITOR / MYNOCKS 3:01

two unused parts edited as one track

13. THE TRAINING OF A JEDI NIGHT

14. HIDDEN FALCJN 0:27

15. BAD FEELING 0:36

16. TRAPPED IN CARBONITE 0:42

17. DARTH VADER'S TRAP / DEPARTURE OF BOBA FETT

two unused cues edited as one track.

 

CONCERT VERSIONS:

 

THE SKYWALKER SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA conducted by JOHN WILLIAMS

18. YODA'S THEME 3:16

19. THE IMPERIAL MARCH 3:05

 

THE NATIONAL PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA - C. GERHARDT RECORDINGS

Entirely remastered

20. HAN AND LEIA'S THEME 4:26

21. THE ASTEROID FIELD 4:12

22. LANDO'S PALACE 1:32

23. LUKE'S FIRST CRASH 2:29

24. THE MAGIC TREE 3:38

25. "MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU" 0:50

 

… That’s what I was about to wish you !

 

As always, feedbacks will help this set not to disappear too fast.

Last edited on February 16, 2010 at 12:38 PM by Moth3r (Reason: Direct link removed)
skyjedi2005's avatar
RE: RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

Thanks for this!

Will tell you what i think once i finish listening to them.

 "Always loved Vader's wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin's ghost. What a fucking shame." -Simon Pegg.

ABC's avatar
RE: RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

Here is a better backcover (I think), the one I wanted to make... Here. And, an ultimate one here.

... And sorry for my twin profiles ! :)

Last edited on October 13, 2009 at 2:00 PM by ABC

ESB AUDIOPHILE EDITION

 

The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Score: "All-Sourced" Restoration & Sonic Achievement.

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RE: RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

Am I missing something?  What smiley?  Where do you download this and the other CD Collection?

It's Not the Years, It's the Mileage.

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RE: RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

IrishLuck1980 said:

Am I missing something?  What smiley?  Where do you download this and the other CD Collection?

 

PM sent,he is playing a game with the links.

Some people!

ABC's avatar
RE: RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

Indeed. Perhaps I should make it bigger ? J

Thanks for helping, DJ !

Edit:

IrishLuck1980 said:

Am I missing something?

... Well, since the mentioned topic about the OT scores salvage work has been here for some time from now, I owe on you to tell me if you miised something until now or not... Please. :)

Last edited on October 17, 2009 at 11:23 PM by ABC

ESB AUDIOPHILE EDITION

 

The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Score: "All-Sourced" Restoration & Sonic Achievement.

ABC's avatar
RE: RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

dark_jedi said:

I am also listening to your ESB FSV 2 CD set,listening to all these tracks makes me want to do a alternate film score for my DVD's using your audio,but I have a feeling this would be pretty hard to do,but would be cool.

Thanks to give me an occasion to recall that topic back from the dephts ! I'm glad to see someone takes advantage of this version. Looks like it has gone unoticed.

Of course, use it if you want. Go ahead. ;)

Also this set may be a good complement to the new restoration project. You can now get rid of the OT soundtracks salvage 1st version and still have these dynamic remixings at hand. A bunch of tracks sound indeed wider and more powerful than the new version if the goal is to blow your speakers ! :)

ESB AUDIOPHILE EDITION

 

The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Score: "All-Sourced" Restoration & Sonic Achievement.

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RE: RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

"if the goal is to blow your speakers !"

absolutely BLOW the speakers LOL,the more rumble the better,but a clean rumble.

Some people!

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oh this sounds very cool!

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ABC's avatar
RE: RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

bump !

... For the best Tomlinson mixes rendition so far, I'd suggest that one. ;) (link on CD2 track 14).

Not perfect as it was my first "true" edit but not bad, and the sound holds on all the line next to the Anthology. Otherwise check my OT Soundtrack Salvage... And bump the thread !

Last edited on February 12, 2010 at 7:17 PM by ABC

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Thanks for the upload!

"In the future it will become easier for old negatives to become lost and be 'replaced' by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten." - George Lucas, 1988.

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RE: RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

How did I miss this topic? This sounds great! But I am a bit confused, how do I get to hear this? Where can I find it? Can someone help me out?

ABC's avatar
RE: RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

20th Century Mark said:

How did I miss this topic?

The reason is simple: no feedbacks ! I just bumped it two days ago.

... how do I get to hear this? Where can I find it? Can someone help me out?

All the help you need is in the opening post... or in my last one. Give a little effort please ;)

 

Last edited on February 16, 2010 at 12:33 PM by ABC

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Read the rules (No. 4) - no direct links (that includes "hidden" urls).

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ABC's avatar
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Moth3r said:

Read the rules (No. 4) - no direct links (that includes "hidden" urls).

 Sorry, I thought "undirect links" where ok, notably when they are given as there: through an image. I'm on my way to remove the "Optimum Edition" then.

I can't do anything about the actual one (remember I gave up that profile), only you can.

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The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Score: "All-Sourced" Restoration & Sonic Achievement.

ABC's avatar
RE: RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

(Again) 20th Century Mark said:

How did I miss this...

Now, you know the answer... And as would say Han: "thank you very much !".

lol

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20th Century Mark's avatar
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can someone PM me with some info please?

ABC's avatar
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No comment

 

Last edited on February 16, 2010 at 4:17 PM by ABC

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20th Century Mark's avatar
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Uh, OK, thanks.

ABC's avatar
RE: RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

Uh, OK, thanks.

... I would have loved to read you tell us how much you're sorry... When things were that easy !

Search the "Empire Strikes Back Optimum Edition" through Google and you may find a post on tehparadox where a guy present it with my film cut edit. ;)

That's all I can tell you.

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dark_jedi's avatar
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20th Century Mark said:

Uh, OK, thanks.

I will help you and not give you the run around,don't waste your time at tehparadox,the links are dead,and if you are really that interested let me know and I will upload and give you working links.

Some people!

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ABC said:

Uh, OK, thanks.

... I would have loved to read you tell us how much you're sorry... When things were that easy !

Search the "Empire Strikes Back Optimum Edition" through Google and you may find a post on tehparadox where a guy present it with my film cut edit. ;)

That's all I can tell you.

dark_jedi said:

20th Century Mark said:

Uh, OK, thanks.

I will help you and not give you the run around,don't waste your time at tehparadox,the links are dead,and if you are really that interested let me know and I will upload and give you working links.

dark_jedi 1, ABC 0.

ABC's avatar
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TV's Frink said:

dark_jedi 1, ABC 0.

Sorry but I never upload twice and I don't keep the links, now you'll know. All that I do sometime is to bump the thread mostly when it looks to have been unnoticed, like this one (it is older than the OE).

Now Frink, if you want to consider DJ and I as "rivals" because we had a few words some time ago... Well, that's what I call sticking in the past ;)

Grow up ! (...Yeah, that's the guy who post some boobs and ass pictures in your thread who says that. Frink is mad at me because of that and even have me on "ignore").

PPS: DJ... Always those f**king signatures... Anyway, once more: thanks for helping. :)

ESB AUDIOPHILE EDITION

 

The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Score: "All-Sourced" Restoration & Sonic Achievement.

dark_jedi's avatar
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Hey man lay off my Sig pics already,these are my 2 favorite games right now,do you play games?do you have favorite things you like?

and yes,past is past.

Last edited on February 18, 2010 at 9:59 PM by dark_jedi

Some people!

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RE: RE-SCORING THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: THE 1980 FILM VERSION EDIT

anyone else interested in this PM me.

Some people!

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