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thxita
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I was just saying, I never trust my memory and I haven't seen my clips again but you have two videos made with two different devices, see if both confirm the white. Feel free to share both here if you like.
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeI'll upload the clips as soon as I finish the subs, I'll put them all in a comparison video. I understand your concern, and I'll check again just to be on the safe side, but I trust my nose on this.
There's no other possible color here but white.
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeThe subtitles are done. Last thing left to do is the audio and a special credits roll in italian, before (or after, still not sure) Harmy's Despecialized credits.
While doing the subtitles in After Effects I noticed the timing was identical to the german subtitles, and then something clicked. I searched for a picture I remembered seeing in this forum, this thread to be precise:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Greedo-Jabba-subtitle-text-in-other-languages/topic/13707/
Laserschwert, I think you'll have to re-do your German version. It's the same font! The video you identified as a "tv version" was apparently taken from the original print, these are the theatrical subs!
I think we can say for sure now, the european subtitles were done by the same house and have the same typeface and timing.
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
Laserschwert
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I am ready for the trials!Leonardo said:
Laserschwert, I think you'll have to re-do your German version. It's the same font! The video you identified as a "tv version" was apparently taken from the original print, these are the theatrical subs!
I think we can say for sure now, the european subtitles were done by the same house and have the same typeface and timing.
Indeed! Damn, I never noticed it, because I thought Sat.1 used a similar font for their onscreen text. Obviously I was wrong, and I should have noticed since the subtitles are cut off in one of the shots.
Funny that we needed the Italian version (and your good eye) to finally crack the German version. Great find! (and it might indicate that the French subs actually used this font as well)
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeHigh five, man! :D
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
Laserschwert
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I am ready for the trials!
Leonardo
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Joliet Jake*snicker* Poor Master Yoda *snicker*
Oh well, at least he's the highest scoring player at the bowling alley.
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
marvins
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Great job ! I assume the french version used the same font.
Here how it looks like with your custom font :
thxita
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Good job I went to the Ravenna screening! So many European versions are now more accurate ;-)
Leonardo
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Joliet Jake
"You see what you did?" ;)
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
thxita
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In many ways that's us Leo :))
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeWell, Stanley, I'm glad to announce I now have the soundtrack.
I'm a total newb to multichannel audio, but I went and did it anyway: I took the italian Gout soundtrack, which (if the software didn't lie to me) was Dolby Sorround encoded, and upmixed it to 5.1 using TFM Audio Tool. I then married the result to Hairy Hen's LFE channel from his 70 mm mix, and the result is a strange hybrid that I'm going to test drive tomorrow morning and drive the neighbours mad!
If anyone wants to hear a sample, just ask and I'll upload one.
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeA request:
does anybody have the original teaser trailer in high definition?
I mean this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEDFGzqMgpI
I remember there used to be a full HD version on youtube, but it has been taken down.
Also, here's a couple of samples of my 5.1 upmix.
Could anybody tell me if there's any problems with these?
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeTrailer is online. I repeat, trailer is online.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3Wlp4clLq4dOVZ5NmN2ZS16T0E/edit
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
marvins
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Leonardo said:
I took the italian Gout soundtrack, which (if the software didn't lie to me) was Dolby Sorround encoded, and upmixed it to 5.1 using TFM Audio Tool. I then married the result to Hairy Hen's LFE channel from his 70 mm mix
I have done the same with the french soundtrack and it sound good.
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeGreat!
I used this matrix:
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeComing very soon...
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeProject has been completed, and uploaded on the spleen!
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
Ripplin
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OT's bucketbotCongrats! I saw it over at the spleen before I saw your last post. :)
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeThanks Ripplin! I hope I did well. Since I started this project I've learned lots of things, and also had to do lots of technical somersaults, so to speak.
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
marvins
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Bravo !
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeMerci :)
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
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Laserdisc MasterCongratulations! And I know your sensations... I started my projects with very low know-how, but thanks to many forum members, I made small steps into the right directions, and learnt a lot of things... it's a good sensation, isn't it?
"IT!. . . COULD! . . . WORK!!" 
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Leonardo
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Joliet JakeI have a small announcement to make: due to gross idiocy on my part, the computer I was using to seed is now temporarily unavailable, because it now needs new heatsink paste. Yes, I am that stupid.
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeIssue solved. Sorry for the inconvenience.
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
Preserving "Italian" Original Trilogy