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"Poita No Return" - the EIAJ open-reel dub of SW Ep.IV
"Poita No Return" - the EIAJ open-reel dub of SW Ep.IV
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda
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legendary but little-known Jedi MasterThis set of two EIAJ open-reel videotapes was acquired by OT member Poita on eBay. I agreed to digitize them.
The tapes are Memorex open-reel black and white tapes. I transfered them to computer using a Panasonic NV-3160 EIAJ deck, with dropout compensation. The signal was passed through an AVTools timebase corrector, and a Canopus ADVC-100 digital converter.
EIAJ at best has resolution similar to VHS. These particular tapes were in superb condition (for EIAJ), although exhibited severe sticky-shed and thus required baking as most EIAJ tapes do. The tapes were baked for 6 hours in an American Harvest food dehydrator, eliminating the sticky shed.
The resulting digitization is SD .avi.
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda
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legendary but little-known Jedi MasterIt is not a 16mm telecine or bootleg theater capture, because there are no reel-change spots.
There also appear to be no advertisements or breaks. My initial impression is that it is probably a dub of a fullscreen VHS release. The scroll says "Ep.IV".
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda
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legendary but little-known Jedi MasterMore evidence that it's a VHS dub and not a broadcast... Tape #2 overlaps about 20 seconds of material with the end of tape #1. As if whoever copied it wanted to make sure and not miss anything, by rewinding the source tape slightly before starting the dub onto tape #2.
Transfer of tape #1 is complete. Tape #2 started and squealed a bit -- requires further baking.
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!Someone could have recorded two different PPV airings though. No logos or FBI warnings in sight?
Are you able to peek at the vertical blanking interval with your gear? Fox occasionally had blocky white text in there on their early video releases, possibly as a sort of watermark. I miss the days when you could mess with the vertical hold on the tv.
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda
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legendary but little-known Jedi MasterI watched most of the first reel, and so far haven't seen anything.
poita
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That's a shame, I would have liked to have seen some old commercials :)
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda
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legendary but little-known Jedi MasterFinished baking the second tape.
poita
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Yum! Freshly baked Memorex, straight from the oven!
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!
Tasjo
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SilverWook said:
Might this be of interest?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Reel-to-reel-Tape-of-Star-Wars-stereo-radio-broadcast-/380691308669?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item58a2f8607d
It appears to be an audio only copy of the 1984 CBS premier, based on the fact that WCCO 830 AM and WCCO-TV were, and still are, CBS affiliates. I will know for sure if this is the case once it arrives.
TServo2049
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This space for rentMakes sense, CBS didn't start broadcasting in stereo until 1987, and in the days before actual stereo TV transmission, the only way to have stereo TV was through an FM simulcast.
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!Early stereo VCR's had an audio input setting to facilitate FM simulcast recordings. I could get MTV's stereo audio if I ran the cable into my stereo's tuner back then.
I think it was mentioned before some of the early pay per view showings may have had simulcasts as well.
Glad someone here got the reels. :)
TServo2049
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This space for rentSilverWook said:
Early stereo VCR's had an audio input setting to facilitate FM simulcast recordings. I could get MTV's stereo audio if I ran the cable into my stereo's tuner back then.
I find it interesting that the circulating bootlegs of MTV's first day are in stereo.
People talk about how only a few thousand people watched MTV's premiere, so it's amazing that at least one of them not only recorded it for posterity, but cared enough to tape it in stereo.
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!Maybe it was someone taping it straight off the satellite feed? Not that hard for someone with one of those big dishes in their backyard, or a cable company employee to do it on the fly back then.
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda
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legendary but little-known Jedi MasterSilverWook said:
Maybe it was someone taping it straight off the satellite feed? Not that hard for someone with one of those big dishes in their backyard, or a cable company employee to do it on the fly back then.
But why on earth would anyone with access to those kind of resources, choose EIAJ as the capture medium?
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!I was referring to the MTV debut. ;)
TServo2049
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This space for rentI know that MTV VP Les Garland had a friend in Tulsa tape the first day. Maybe that guy turned around and bootlegged his recording.
Of course, none of this has anything to do with the actual topic of this thread...
frank678
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I'd love to get one of these guys to work on this:
http://twistedsifter.com/2013/08/historic-black-white-photos-colorized/
DavidMerrick
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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Finished baking the second tape.
Welcome to OriginalTrilogy.com, one of the few places in the world where the above sentence makes any kind of sense!
AntcuFaalb
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The Interweb is a Series of TubesDavidMerrick said:
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Finished baking the second tape.
Welcome to OriginalTrilogy.com, one of the few places in the world where the above sentence makes any kind of sense!
lol
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delurking mode.. onDavidMerrick said:
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Finished baking the second tape.
Welcome to OriginalTrilogy.com, one of the few places in the world where the above sentence makes any kind of sense!
Nah, sticky-shed is a pretty common thing with any kind of analog tape. A friend of mine had a Studer A80 and was constantly baking tapes working on projects.
Baking tapes famously saved the 3rd Boston album (whether it deserved to be saved is a matter of personal opinion ;-)
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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda
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legendary but little-known Jedi MasterYeah, most major studios (audio or video) have some means of baking tapes today. When they remaster an old recording, for example, they often have to bake the master tapes.
Sorry for the delay digitizing the second tape. My computer has been tied up rendering a series of tapes for the past month.