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very intrested to see this set

does it have a DVD cover by any chance?

I was watching this project quietly, hoping for a cool project to add to the collection.  After reading how this is going down I find myself having to pass on owning this set.  Community & teamwork should go hand in hand, the donation part should be voluntary, not mandatory.

I know I am not alone when it comes to spending some money to have solid resources for projects going on and I am honored to be able to do so and share what I've acquired so others don't have to.  It benefits everyone and my hat is off to all those people who've done the same.

If you're looking for what looks like "mandatory donation"....this site may not be for you.  Due to the circumstances, I will be passing on this collection. 

If you're doing projects to gain the glory and praise for being the one to do it....a goodbye is probably bittersweet but necessary.

I wish you well in your journey and hope you find whatever it is you're looking for.

crazyrabbits said:

I'm going to jump in and defend TB. I haven't been on the forum for a long time, but he was always (and still is) one of the more prolific archivists on this site.

If I'm not mistaken, TB, I bought both a 2-disc Batman Begins and Dark Knight DVD set from you a few years back on your EBay account, largely because (a) it had a variety of material that I wanted to see that I couldn't find anywhere else, regardless of quality, and (b) I felt the price was ridiculously cheap for the work put into it and the shipping costs.

Fact is, I stayed away from this forum for a long time because of how lax the community became in regards to preservations. Few, if any, were trading on an active basis - I haven't corresponded with Beastly in years, and I know he stopped trading altogether and had a huge collection of rare stuff. I've sent materials off in failed trades, sent potential materials for inclusion that vanished into the ether, and tried to help with projects that went nowhere.

I give TB the benefit of the doubt - I've seen his work, and know him (even if it's just on this forum) well enough to believe he has a genuine interest in helping preserve materials just as much, if not moreso, than most people here.

I personally don't doubt TB's commitment to the preservation projects they're involved with...but there are rules.  If only some have to follow them and others don't then why are we here?  One shouldn't imply openly here that you have to put up cash to get something from them.  It's presumptuous and could be seen as an illegal transaction based on the property involved.   

I think everyone whose had even small parts in a project has been a part of a project that ends up in limbo...including myself....what is one supposed to do?  Do we pull out whips and start forcing people to eat dirt unless they comply and finish what they promised they would start or help with?  It's pointless, really.  Real life comes in surprise flashes just as rare and hard to find material do.

You defending this person is commendable.  As a member of this site the rules are designed to help protect everyone.  If you feel there has been misconduct of some sort, then you need to contact one of the mods and/or Jay to start the process of getting things sorted for everyone's benefit, including TB's.

Cheers!!!!

eric_ptnf said:

If I may...

I have bought from TB a couple of times already and all he asked of me is $5 for shipping (we live on different continents btw) and an amount OF MY CHOOSING for donation, which also covers for blank DVDs.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention I had the option not to buy from him if I felt $5 + an amount of my choosing was a ripoff. That's the beauty of living in a free country.

Alright, have a nice day everyone!

What happens in private should stay private.  Please do the OP and yourself a favor and don't talk about stuff like this anymore publicly.     

Openly looking for money to recoup money, you've put in to create a project, after the project is finished....you're just asking for a reaction like the one that happened in this thread.

I've had people send me discs....I've sent discs, all free of charge.  If I paid for something...like some of the audio discs I recently acquired to help other projects start & finish....I asked for NO money and shared freely. 

The karma helps everyone. 

If anyone feels for any reason, that they HAVE to depend on a larger resource to complete a project, they should make it known WHILE the project is going or as it is starting....not after the fact.  I've seen plenty of generosity on this site when people ask for help.  Telling folks that money will be needed to receive a project they're interested in rarely fares well, ever.  Just the facts.  

I banned tb1971 in 2009 after suspecting he was selling bootlegs. He complained to Jay, and the ban was lifted as there was no clear evidence that he was the seller at that time.

After following the development of this thread, I think the case is clear. This is not the type of member we want on this site.

Moth3r said:

I banned tb1971 in 2009 after suspecting he was selling bootlegs. He complained to Jay, and the ban was lifted as there was no clear evidence that he was the seller at that time.

After following the development of this thread, I think the case is clear. This is not the type of member we want on this site.

I'm pleased to see some positive resolution to this matter.  One can only defend nothing for so long....

eric_ptnf said:

If I may...

I have bought from TB a couple of times already and all he asked of me is $5 for shipping (we live on different continents btw) and an amount OF MY CHOOSING for donation, which also covers for blank DVDs.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention I had the option not to buy from him if I felt $5 + an amount of my choosing was a ripoff. That's the beauty of living in a free country.

Alright, have a nice day everyone!

The OP being banned....is the beauty of a community that cares.  Have a nice day.....  :) 

crazyrabbits said:

I'm going to jump in and defend TB. I haven't been on the forum for a long time, but he was always (and still is) one of the more prolific archivists on this site.

If I'm not mistaken, TB, I bought both a 2-disc Batman Begins and Dark Knight DVD set from you a few years back on your EBay account, largely because (a) it had a variety of material that I wanted to see that I couldn't find anywhere else, regardless of quality, and (b) I felt the price was ridiculously cheap for the work put into it and the shipping costs.

Fact is, I stayed away from this forum for a long time because of how lax the community became in regards to preservations. Few, if any, were trading on an active basis - I haven't corresponded with Beastly in years, and I know he stopped trading altogether and had a huge collection of rare stuff. I've sent materials off in failed trades, sent potential materials for inclusion that vanished into the ether, and tried to help with projects that went nowhere.

I give TB the benefit of the doubt - I've seen his work, and know him (even if it's just on this forum) well enough to believe he has a genuine interest in helping preserve materials just as much, if not moreso, than most people here.

There goes any benefit of the doubt....I would refrain from speaking about any "purchases" ..... as a precaution.