Warbler said:

Maybe this makes me odd, but can someone explain Quentin Tarantino to me?  Why does he always show up at the Oscars looking like a slob?   Does it cause him horrible pain and suffering to button the top button of his shirt and tighten the tie all the way up and groom his hair a little?   Btw, to Mr Tarantino and other men: you are supposed to where a bow tie with Tux.  I hate people that think they are too cold to dress up appropriately for events.      

I'm the guy who discovered society now lets us get away with wearing Converse with business suits and who stopped combing his hair entirely about five years ago, so... I for one cannot answer your question.

Also, I think Tarantino is kind of a cool.

People like counter culture and contrarians. I mean, we're literally a country that was built on rebellion. It resonates with us. Screw the bow tie and that top button! Who cares? They are such silly social conventions anyway. Why do we wear dumb superficial pieces of cloth around our necks anyway? When you stop and think about it, it is all rather silly.

TV's Frink said:

Warbler said:

I also didn't like the most of the comedy bits done by the people announcing awards,   I was like "quit with the dumb asinine jokes that aren't a damn bit funny, and announce the damned award winner!"   

Oh, so you've never watched the Oscars before then.

I watch the Oscars every year.   The jokes seemed to me to be more unfunny, stupid and lame and time consuming than before.    I could be wrong, years ago, I don't think those that were announce winners made as many jokes.   They went up there, told us what the award was for, who the nominees were and opened the envelope and announced the winner. 

CP3S said:

People like counter culture and contrarians.

I don't.  At least not when it comes to dressing appropriately. 

CP3S said:

 

I mean, we're literally a country that was built on rebellion. It resonates with us. Screw the bow tie and that top button! Who cares? They are such silly social conventions anyway. Why do we wear dumb superficial pieces of cloth around our necks anyway? When you stop and think about it, it is all rather silly.

well, next time you are interviewing for an important job, show up looking like Tarantino and see how far you get.

TV's Frink said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

       The idea behind the tux is to make men as indifferent from one another as possible. They all wear a uniform so that no one will notice their clothing. That way, all attention is focused on the women and their spectaclular attire.

That's why there were so many beards.

that's another thing.   Men need to learn how to shave.  I have no objection to a beard, but either grow a beard or shave.   Don't have something in between(unless you are in the process of growing a beard), it makes you look like a bum.   And yes I know, I am weird and old fashion.    But I look at old movies and pictures and old tv shows and whatnot where everyone dressed up and dressed appropriately for things and were well groomed, it gives events a different feel/aura.  I dislike how dressing up and/or wearing suit and tie is more and more on the way out.  I tell you something is being lost.  

bkev said:

Cut the snark, Warb.

bkev, if you have problem with me say so and tell me what it is, or leave me the hell alone.

bkev said:

Anyway, what were people's thoughts on Michele Obama presenting an award? I'm a fan of the Obamas but I've never liked how they use media. I feel like something like that should be beneath a person in a position of such power. It's not quite as horrible as Barack himself on say the Late Show, but it not only surprised me - it shocked me. And to give her Best Picture? Oh, I mean, COME ON.

Seemed totally appropriate to me. 

No different than a politician being in a parade or throwing out the first pitch at a ball game. I'd be just as much for it if it had been Mrs. Romney up there. The First Lady (or even the POTUS) can do things like that.

I would say if she gave out best Sound Editing, that would be beneath her. 

CP3S said:

People like counter culture and contrarians. I mean, we're literally a country that was built on rebellion. It resonates with us. Screw the bow tie and that top button! Who cares? They are such silly social conventions anyway. Why do we wear dumb superficial pieces of cloth around our necks anyway? When you stop and think about it, it is all rather silly.

Perhaps, but rocking the messy hair and unbuttoned tie in a room of people with tuxes is just as much, if not more, or an intentional affectation than wearing a full tux. 

Like a teenage boy sagging his jeans, Tarantino put just as much decision into looking like he didn't care for everyone watching as someone would put into looking like they care. His rebellion is just as much an artifice as anyone else's conformity. 

bkev said:

With pleasure, but:

Warbler said:

well, next time you are interviewing for an important job, show up looking like Tarantino and see how far you get.
  

I'm really sick of seeing this high and mighty attitude. Maybe I'm no better by pointing it out, though.

 

I have a high and might attitude? 

TheBoost said:

CP3S said:

People like counter culture and contrarians. I mean, we're literally a country that was built on rebellion. It resonates with us. Screw the bow tie and that top button! Who cares? They are such silly social conventions anyway. Why do we wear dumb superficial pieces of cloth around our necks anyway? When you stop and think about it, it is all rather silly.

Perhaps, but rocking the messy hair and unbuttoned tie in a room of people with tuxes is just as much, if not more, or an intentional affectation than wearing a full tux. 

Like a teenage boy sagging his jeans, Tarantino put just as much decision into looking like he didn't care for everyone watching as someone would put into looking like they care. His rebellion is just as much an artifice as anyone else's conformity. 

this ^

I personally couldn't give less of a shit about what people wear to the Oscars. Tuxes are appropriate, obviously, but I think be annoyed by what type of tie someone has on is quite silly.

As for jokes, that's one of the big reasons I always watch. I'm a huge fan of films, and actually tend to respect the Academy Awards and a lot some of the decisions they make. Mostly, I understand and can appreciate their constant presence in the current and past cinematic landscape, and can name more winners and nominees (most of which I have seen), than is probably healthy for someone my age. And while I always pay great attention to the winners, and like to hear/see the speeches, if there were no jokes I honestly might not even watch the ceremony. One of the biggest problems with the Oscars is that they're "serious." I like seeing people poke fun at them (I love how Seth straight up said that they made a mistake not nominating Ben Affleck) and the celebrities (the "we saw your boobs" was pretty damn funny). And I like clever jokes that reference movies (the Sound of Music joke was very awesome).

So yeah, I'm never too upset about the Oscars. They're usually just a fun night. 

Also, I have zero problem with the First Lady appearing, but I kind of feel like it was pointless.

DominicCobb said:

I personally couldn't give less of a shit about what people wear to the Oscars. Tuxes are appropriate, obviously, but I think be annoyed by what type of tie someone has on is quite silly.

I just personally think the bow tie looks right with the tux and the regular tie does not. 

Warbler said:

CP3S said:

 

I mean, we're literally a country that was built on rebellion. It resonates with us. Screw the bow tie and that top button! Who cares? They are such silly social conventions anyway. Why do we wear dumb superficial pieces of cloth around our necks anyway? When you stop and think about it, it is all rather silly.

well, next time you are interviewing for an important job, show up looking like Tarantino and see how far you get.

I've shown up to important job interviews wearing converse with my suit, my hair uncombed, and no tie. I've gotten more than one job like this.

For my most recent job interview, my now boss showed up in track pants and a t-shirt, and complimented my shoes. Considering his position and the job, I was surprised. Times, they are a-changin'.

TV's Frink said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

       The idea behind the tux is to make men as indifferent from one another as possible. They all wear a uniform so that no one will notice their clothing. That way, all attention is focused on the women and their spectaclular attire.

That's why there were so many beards.

that's another thing.   Men need to learn how to shave.  I have no objection to a beard, but either grow a beard or shave.   Don't have something in between(unless you are in the process of growing a beard), it makes you look like a bum.

My stubble beard gets me laid.

TheBoost said:

Like a teenage boy sagging his jeans, Tarantino put just as much decision into looking like he didn't care for everyone watching as someone would put into looking like they care. His rebellion is just as much an artifice as anyone else's conformity. 

For sure! I never use a comb, but I take longer to do my hair in the mornings than a lot of my guy friends do to get my messy hair look. We're still projecting an image. It is about presentation.

*shakes head in disbelief*

No, seriously, women love them some stubble!