Akwat Kbrana
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Token Linguistics NerdWhen did you first realize that Courtship of Princess Leia was going to be irredeemably bad?
For me, it was the revelation that Han is really a king, and C-3p0's musical number celebrating the fact. (For those who haven't read the book: I swear I am not making this up.)
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DuracellEnergizer
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Ce n'est pas DuracellEnergizerI knew it was going to suck badly when the Han-Leia-Isolder love triangle reared its grotesque head. Han's royal background (hadn't other novels already established that Han was an orphan with no real knowledge of his roots?) and Luke's inexplicably blue lightsaber certainly didn't help matters.
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xhonzi
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of Earth.http://thecoplbookclub.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/the-culmination/
All that needs to be said.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!Akwat Kbrana said:
When did you first realize that Courtship of Princess Leia was going to be irredeemably bad?
For me, it was the revelation that Han is really a king, and C-3p0's musical number celebrating the fact. (For those who haven't read the book: I swear I am not making this up.)
Oh come on! Han's a king? They totally ripped off Spaceballs! Mel Brooks should sue!
And I thought dropping a moon on poor Chewie was the low point of the EU.
What's next, Lando finds out he's related to Mace Windu?
I think I need to lie down...
Fang Zei
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I am ready for the trials!True story:
I was in 8th grade when the TPM teaser hit in November of '98. The morning after it aired on Entertainment Tonight, I remember this one guy in my class thinking Samuel L. Jackson's character was supposed to be a younger version of Lando.
DuracellEnergizer
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Ce n'est pas DuracellEnergizerI had a guy in mine who claimed that Darth Maul - or Darth Mon, as he called him - was Darth Vader when he was younger.
God doesn't think in terms of black or white - or even shades of gray - but in big, bright, bold hues of blue and orange.
Leonardo
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Joliet Jake
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
Hal 9000
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Curse you all, you should have caught me!I guess nobody liked Leonardo's joke. Anyway, I've got a stocked Kindle (app) and a revised, though still ambitious, reading list. I've got a good 2+ years for all this catch up reading, and I can always skip some of these if my time grows short. I don't need to read every solitary book that's come out in this time period, though I do want to get a good sense of events and character development.
I'm reading the Thrawn trilogy right now, as everyone says this is the more important. I like it so far; he seems to understand the characters. Afterward...
The Dark Empire comic series. Because why not.
I, Jedi - I'll read this one in place of the Jedi Academy trilogy for efficiency.
The Black Fleet Crisis trilogy
The Corellian trilogy
Hand of Thrawn Duology
Union: The Marriage of Luke Skywalker (comic) - Again, because why not.
New Jedi Order - An abbreviated run of just five entries: Vector Prime, Star by Star, Traitor, Destiny's Way, and The Unifying Force
I would appreciate suggestions of which are the essential reads of the Legacy of the Force and Fate of the Jedi serieses. They're recent enough that I haven't found a reliable description of which ones are the barebones essentials.
Now, this may be entirely too much content to shove into a relatively short time. I may go in spurts, but that's my goal. If I start to run out of time or get tired of it, I can go back to the abridged audiobooks for some of these. I haven't read a Star Wars novel since I was a kid, really, and I'm enjoying Heir to the Empire so far. We'll see. (And I might knock off the Black Fleet Crisis and/or Corellian trilogies in order to skip ahead if need be.)
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeHal 9000 said:
I guess nobody liked Leonardo's joke.
Well, you know how it is, you hit, you miss. I mostly miss.
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
Anchorhead
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Hand Of JudgmentHal 9000 said:
I've got a stocked Kindle (app) and a revised, though still ambitious, reading list. I've got a good 2+ years for all this catch up reading
To echo what Tim said earlier, read what you think you'll enjoy, not what you think will have any bearing on VII. At least not until we start getting reports and blurbs from the filming after it begins.
If Hamill, Ford, & Co are in the next film - and it appears they are - there is no way any of the Zahn stuff will be part of the story. Well, not unless there's quite a stretch. The Zahn EU (all of which is fantastic, by the way) takes place when our heroes are in their 30s and 40s. The original cast are much older than that now. It would be a weird leap filming Thrawn stories with Luke in his 60s and Solo in his 70s.
That said; As a devout follower of all things Zahn EU (my personal canon), I would love an occasional name-check to some of the novels.
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Hal 9000
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Curse you all, you should have caught me!Oh, I have zero expectation for this EU knowledge to actually play into the films. However, now would be the best time to explore the post-ROTJ EU as the film approaches. As long as Episode VII doesn't out and out preclude the broad strokes of the EU, things should be fine.
xhonzi
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of Earth.Leonardo said:
Hal 9000 said:
I guess nobody liked Leonardo's joke.
Well, you know how it is, you hit, you miss. I mostly miss.
Disco Leonardo likes DISCO music.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
Leonardo
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Joliet JakeOk, that one, I missed. Unless you're channeling Ric Olié.
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
xhonzi
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of Earth.More of a Disco Stu reference. And it's not meant to be a very good one.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
DuracellEnergizer
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Ce n'est pas DuracellEnergizerHal 9000 said:
I'm reading the Thrawn trilogy right now, as everyone says this is the more important. I like it so far; he seems to understand the characters. Afterward...
The Dark Empire comic series. Because why not.
I, Jedi - I'll read this one in place of the Jedi Academy trilogy for efficiency.
The Black Fleet Crisis trilogy
The Corellian trilogy
New Jedi Order - An abbreviated run of just five entries: Vector Prime, Star by Star, Traitor, Destiny's Way, and The Unifying Force
I would appreciate suggestions of which are the essential reads of the Legacy of the Force and Fate of the Jedi serieses. They're recent enough that I haven't found a reliable description of which ones are the barebones essentials.
God doesn't think in terms of black or white - or even shades of gray - but in big, bright, bold hues of blue and orange.
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I'm reading The Jedi Academy Trilogy by Kevin J. Anderson and I must say that it is more entertaining than The Thrawn Trilogy... BUT it feels more like watching a cool TV series than a trilogy of movies in the sens that the story feels more scattered, less focused. That's the strenght and the weakness of those books, IMO.
Let's say that if one had to adapt one of those trilogy on the big screen, The Thrawn trilogy would be easier to do (stronger characters, more focused story) but on paper I prefer the Jedi Academy.
Fang Zei
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I am ready for the trials!Interesting to read such a ringing endorsement of the Corellian Trilogy. I might have to check that out at some point.
DuracellEnergizer
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Ce n'est pas DuracellEnergizerTMBTM said:
I'm reading The Jedi Academy Trilogy by Kevin J. Anderson and I must say that it is more entertaining than The Thrawn Trilogy... BUT it feels more like watching a cool TV series than a trilogy of movies in the sens that the story feels more scattered, less focused. That's the strenght and the weakness of those books, IMO.
Let's say that if one had to adapt one of those trilogy on the big screen, The Thrawn trilogy would be easier to do (stronger characters, more focused story) but on paper I prefer the Jedi Academy.
God doesn't think in terms of black or white - or even shades of gray - but in big, bright, bold hues of blue and orange.
xhonzi
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of Earth.From Dark Empire II, I really liked a lot of the side story- Ossus comes to mind. The first Dark Empire ends in such a way that you can't really not continue it... but Dark Empire II isn't very good. Empire's End has no redeeming qualities that I can remember.
I really enjoyed the parallels betwixt Dark Empire and the Tales of the Jedi comics. Dark Empire II had some of that.
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I used to carry a bullet in my pocket marked 'KJA' since he used to be the guy who ruined Star Wars. (Guess which bullet I carry now?). However, Jedi Academy was only the beginning of the end and I can still enjoy it to some degree. If I had to prune the post RotJ down to the nubs, I think Jedi Academy would squeak in. It introduces a few long standing EU points- like the, SPOILER, Jedi Academy.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.