I think that if George had used traditional effects for the majority of his additions (like an animatronic sarlacc beak, for example ) then they would be much easier to stomach. I for one wouldn't mind if he went this route for any further SEs.

^ Beat me to it.

Here's an idea, what if he added all the effects Ray Harryhausen style.  He has claimed that his original idea for doing Jabba in A New Hope was with a stop motion creature.  It would still look new but at least it would be up to 70s special effects standards.

And I certainly don't have a problem with him using new digital effects for the composite like when he cleaned up the matte lines and transparent frames in the Hoth Battle and Rancor pit.

As long as he releases the original theatrical versions, I don't care what he adds to his latest "new special editions".

If it has anything to do with the 04 debacle (which it probably will) then there is no hope for this set. Best case scenario if the OOT is not released is to do a new scan of the 97SE and simply release that. It will have proper restored colors, a highly detailed image (added scenes were done in 2K), good sound mix, and none of the awful 04 edits. And it wouldn't cost anything except for a new scan.

captainsolo said:

And it wouldn't cost anything except for a new scan.

Too bad it costs so much that poor George can't afford it.

Yep. He can't even afford a scan of his personal three strip technicolor print he had the 97's based on.

^ Brilliant! It is posts like Baronlando's that really show how ridiculous and absurd this whole situation is. :)

...WITH FEELINGS!

Hilarious!

I'll never understand why GL hates his originals so much. 

The way I see it, with all the versions available on the interwebz (namely Adywan's SE's and Dark Jedi's GOUT's) why do we still yearn for an official version?  We're clearly never going to get it, so be happy with what you have.  It's probably better than anything Lucas would give us anyway.

RedFive said:

The way I see it, with all the versions available on the interwebz (namely Adywan's SE's and Dark Jedi's GOUT's) why do we still yearn for an official version? 

Because SW-fans and cineasts yearn to finally be able to enjoy these films restored to their former glory like every other movie, and Lucasfilm is the company that can make it happen if the madman just greenlight it. Old SW and film fans like myself have lived in a kind of a twisted nightmare for 13 years where the films we loved suddenly got taken away, for those of us that remember and know how beautiful these films can look, dark_jedi's improved GOUT-set are in no way a substitute for that, no matter how much g-force improved it, it's still a polished lousy Laserdisc transfer. That's why.

RedFive said:

We're clearly never going to get it, so be happy with what you have.  It's probably better than anything Lucas would give us anyway.

On this site we're clearly not happy about it.

And the general public is not going to download and burn D_J's discs. Future generations, boxed sets of classic movies, they all will ONLY have the 2004 version. We are a small group, the originals deserve more than just us.

I guess that's all true. 

What about the 2006 DVD's?  I haven't actually seen them, and I understand the quality is pretty lame, but isn't it the OOT nonetheless? 

RedFive said:

I guess that's all true. 

What about the 2006 DVD's?  I haven't actually seen them, and I understand the quality is pretty lame, but isn't it the OOT nonetheless? 

RedFive said:

What about the 2006 DVD's?  I haven't actually seen them, and I understand the quality is pretty lame, but isn't it the OOT nonetheless? 

Those 2006 bonus discs is what is called "GOUT - Georges' Original Unaltered Trilogy" around these parts. Made from an 18 years old Laserdisc master. Cheap pornos are treated better on video than one of the most popular and influental films ever made.

doubleofive said:

RedFive said:

I guess that's all true. 

What about the 2006 DVD's?  I haven't actually seen them, and I understand the quality is pretty lame, but isn't it the OOT nonetheless? 

Yes, but let's say you bought Fox's 75th Anniversary DVD Set to get all of the best movies they've made. Guess which version of Star Wars that actually is?

That's just terrible.  Even more so than putting "Night at the Museum" in there - what the hell?

It is Fox after all...

msycamore said:

RedFive said:

What about the 2006 DVD's?  I haven't actually seen them, and I understand the quality is pretty lame, but isn't it the OOT nonetheless? 

Those 2006 bonus discs is what is called "GOUT - Georges' Original Unaltered Trilogy" around these parts. Made from an 18 years old Laserdisc master. Cheap pornos are treated better on video than one of the most popular and influental films ever made.

Hahaha.  What do you think his reasoning is for this?  Does he actually believe that his new versions that much better?  Is he just a stubborn old man with a giant ego who won't admit his mistakes?  Is he saving the cleaned-up remastered GOUT for... I don't even know what at this point, just trying to keep people buying different editions?