I've always been interested in Robocop 2 development, but there isn't a lot out there. I will agree with her that Kershner did a shitty job on that film, which surprised me because the thing was written by Frank Miller, who seemed a perfect match to the violent-comic-book style of the original, but then the script was shitty too. I guess Kersh had different ideas of the film (although he's on record stating he was a fan of the original, so I dunno what happened there). Her comments are a bit vague though, I'd like to know more details about why she feels that way. Still, nice to have honesty. 

evan1975 said:

Frank Miller is like George Lucas:  One of those guys that did a few groundbreaking projects early on, began believing their own hype about being a "visionary genius", and from then on produced only self-indulgent crap that no one liked.

I really liked Robocop 2, it's problems are the really awful and dated CGI Max Headroom head and it's story is too similar to Robocop 1. 

Maybe that was down to the changes Nancy was complaining about, it's not unusual on a high profile sequel for the Director to get messages from on high insisting on making huge chunks of the film practically the same as the first one, I can imagine that generally miffing Kersh.

I loved the Jackie Chan style abrupt ending and the opening 'crime baton passing' sequence is brilliant.

(far memory)

Was it in that film that Robo shot a a guy's cigaret because it was not good for health ? Hahaha !

Probably. There is a section where Robocop is programmed to only do good deeds or something like that. Honestly this film is a mess, and the only thing good is the really cool stop-motion effects by Phil Tippet. The last 20 minutes are worth watching the film, but only barely. I know Robocop 3 got lots of criticism, and to be fair I haven't watched either of these in like ten years, but from my memory I (surprisingly, because I heard it was awful) enjoyed the third film more than the second. Prior to that my only exposure to Robocop 3 was the Genesis/SNES game, which was not that good (the Robocop arcade game was cool from what I remember, but it never got ported). I remember Robocop 2 came out the same time as Terminator 2 and there were lots of knock offs too, so you had all these pseudo-heroic robot-killers sequels that vaguely appealed to children despite their R-rating from about 1989-1991.

Those kind of films (R 2) I watch only once, I will forget and won't never see it again. I borrowed the 3 DVDs to a friend last year only to watch the 1st. I have never seen the 3rd, and see no point dreaming it could be good.

You can feel the 1st one is unique. No need to insist... It said it all. ;)

SilverWook said:

I found it amusing Robocop would later spawn a cartoon series and a toy line.

He actually got two cartoon shows and I think some kind of Marvel animated special or something. As well as a live action one.

Robocop 3 is one of the worst films of all time. 

Looked it up and there were just the two animated series. I got confused because I used to own a VHS tape that just had a single episode on it. But it was still good stuff. I don't remember much about the second animated series but it's supposed to be really bad. I hope the remake they have coming out next year is good.

Am I the only one who read the title of this thread and thought it was about a porno?  I think I need therapy.

Jeez guys, learn to spell Kershner's name right. He directed The Empire Strikes Back for crying out loud! LOL

RoboCop 2 sucked and Kershner directed it so if the story is true, I'd believe her. I agree about the elements she was talking about and RoboCop really took a bad turn there but then again, I don't know what direction would be the best. I think TESB was a great collaborative effort from everyone which made it so great. Kershner may have been a good director in it but having seen Never Say Never Again and RoboCop 2 I wouldn't say he's that great.

They showed the RoboCop trilogy here for the first time in over 10 years on TV here recently. I've seen the first film once or twice and I love it. RoboCop was one of the coolest things in 90s when growing up, I remember the NES game and all, good times.

LexX said:

RoboCop was one of the coolest things in 90s when growing up, I remember the NES game and all, good times.

90s? You're older than you think.

The film was released 1987, the arcade game 1988 and the Spectrum version in 1989.

Moth3r said:

LexX said:

RoboCop was one of the coolest things in 90s when growing up, I remember the NES game and all, good times.

90s? You're older than you think.

The film was released 1987, the arcade game 1988 and the Spectrum version in 1989.

Well, yeah, but we still played the games and it was a cool character in the early 90s. I was born in 1987 so I'm not THAT old. I also had a large RoboCop knock-off figure, otherwise I wasn't that into it and hadn't seen the movie but it reminds me of kindergarten times, LOL.

LexX said:

Moth3r said:

LexX said:

RoboCop was one of the coolest things in 90s when growing up, I remember the NES game and all, good times.

90s? You're older than you think.

The film was released 1987, the arcade game 1988 and the Spectrum version in 1989.

Well, yeah, but we still played the games and it was a cool character in the early 90s. I was born in 1987 so I'm not THAT old. I also had a large RoboCop knock-off figure, otherwise I wasn't that into it and hadn't seen the movie but it reminds me of kindergarten times, LOL.

 So, you didn't witness the cultural shock this film's issue was... ;)

... And that BLOWING (<edit: I mean awesome) THX mix in theatres...!

I've never heard something that good these last 20 years. And we call that "progress" !