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"friggin midgit devil teddy bear"A friend of mine and I planned on seeing this last night over a week ago. We invited a few of our other friends along the way, then something came up and the original friend I planned on seeing it with couldn't make it. We get to the theater, and one friend says, "Oooh! World War Z, I'd almost rather see that!" Another friend, "Yeah! I'd be down with that!" and the other, "Works for me. Are you cool with that?" All three of them turn to me. What could I say? "Yeah, if you guys would rather see that it's fine." Would have much rather seen This is the End or something that would have been mindless fun. It was the worst and most lifeless, souless movie I've allowed myself to be subjected to in a long time.
I hate situations like that. So, hopefully sometime in the near future I'll get an opportunity to see Man of Steel and will be able to post a few comments on it. If I would have known things were going to pan out that way, I'd have gone to see it by myself the night before.
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!Stumbled over this, and just had to share. I still haven't seen the movie, so someone else will have to verify the numbers. ;)




darth_ender
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTFinally saw it last night. There was a lot of destruction, which certainly would have resulted in damages like noted in the above picture. But honestly I really, really enjoyed it, and I don't care what fake people like Frink's wife think about it. It was fantastic! If I were a fan editor, the main thing I would change would simply be the extensive destruction.
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
ray_afraid
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Twisted & EvilThat's hilarious Silverwook!
Here's a bit of a review that made me laugh..
recap: One of the most noble characters in the history of human imagination has been rebooted. All of the options are open. You know whose rules he plays by? HIS OWN. He’s capable of horrible stuff. You run with gangs? He runs with TWELVE GANGS, and they all commit hate crimes. Did you just make him mad? Don’t make him mad. You wouldn’t like him when he’s angry. Because he is THE INCREDIBLE HULK, or Superman... or whatever.
darth_ender
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTMinor spoiler alert:
In spite of of how much I liked the movie, I noticed one serious logical error right away. In Metropolis, Zod's ship is work in tandem with the world engine or whatever it's called on the opposite side of the planet. In Metropolis, it's broad daylight. After destroying the world engine on the other side and getting knocked out, Supes gets some recovery as he soaks in sunlight from the morning light. How could there be sunlight on opposite sides of the planet simultaneously???
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
twister111
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TV's Frink got me into the dark side of the force!Michael Rosenbaum tweeted:
http://twitter.com/mrosenbaum711/status/350033192729837568
Can the Superman fans out there spread the word that there's really no other choice.Let Cranston stick to meth.Thanks
http://www.buzzfocus.com/2013/06/19/casting-lex-luthor-in-superman-man-of-steel-2/
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!Great Scott! Can't they use some other villain from the rogue's gallery for a change?
generalfrevious
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I am ready for the trials!SilverWook said:
Great Scott! Can't they use some other villain from the rogue's gallery for a change?
No, because the audience would not be familiar with any other superman villians beside Lex Luthor and Zod. It's all about selling tickets than taking risks. That's why they had the origin story in Man of Steel for the second (or third?) time.
Sounding like a broken record since May 2006.
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South Jersey Devilperhaps it is time to put one of these other Superman villains in a movie so that the audience will become familiar with them. In addition, I am pretty sure many are familiar with Doomsday and Bizarro(though I realize that Bizarro would be too silly and Doomsday wouldn't seem right for the first movie).
btw, is the John Williams Superman music used anywhere in the movie?
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!The old cartoons I grew up watching had everyone from Brainiac to Mister Mxyzptlk. Even the Superboy series used some of lesser known baddies.
CP3S
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"friggin midgit devil teddy bear"generalfrevious said:
SilverWook said:
Great Scott! Can't they use some other villain from the rogue's gallery for a change?
No, because the audience would not be familiar with any other superman villians beside Lex Luthor and Zod. It's all about selling tickets than taking risks. That's why they had the origin story in Man of Steel for the second (or third?) time.
That is all demonstrably false.
Many villains that are not so well known have been popping up in comic books movies. Batman Begins started off with Ra's al Ghul, while well known to fans of the comics, the general public had no idea who he was. Lesser known villains have made their way into Disney's Marvel movies as well.
I don't think featuring Lex Luthor in the sequel would be in the interest of playing it safe, but rather because he is Superman's arch nemesis and modern super hero movies seem to have a life expectancy of three installments. I don't seem to remember too many complaints about the Joker in The Dark Knight, and in fact most people found this tired and overused villain to be the highlight of the film. Hopefully they find a way to make Lex interesting, rather than rehashing Hackman, like they did with Kevin Spacey in the overly shitty Superman Returns.
Also, this is a reboot. What is wrong with a fresh take on the origin story? We haven't seen his origin on the big screen since 1978, that was a year after the first Star Wars film was released, and several years before I was even born. If Marvel can keep rebooting the same characters over and over and over again (Spider-Man, the X-Men, The Punisher, the Hulk, and probably a few others) all in the expanse of ten years, then surely D.C. is allowed to give Superman another go from the beginning after 30+ years.
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!Heath Ledger's Joker was a very unique interpretation, and the actor's untimely death added to the hype.
What used to make Lex interesting was that he was someone who believed Superboy wronged him, and had a lifelong grudge. That went out the window in subsequent reboots of the DC universe. Lex has been more like an evil Donald Trump in more recent incarnations.
One reason behind the Spidey movie reboot is if the studio doesn't crank out a movie in a certain time frame, the rights lapse. Sony is going to milk the webhead for all they can get, before letting Disney get him back.
If they want a compelling villain we haven't seen in a Supes movie before, and someone Superman can fight toe to toe, there's only one way to go, and that's Darkseid. There probably saving him for the Justice League flick though.
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Twisted & EvilWarbler said:
btw, is the John Williams Superman music used anywhere in the movie?
No. In this gloomy film, that uplifting music would have stood out like a boner in sweatpants. No room for "fun" here, this is Batman. Or Superman. ...Or whatever.
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Ointment Flydarth_ender said:
Finally saw it last night. There was a lot of destruction, which certainly would have resulted in damages like noted in the above picture. But honestly I really, really enjoyed it, and I don't care what fake people like Frink's wife think about it. It was fantastic! If I were a fan editor, the main thing I would change would simply be the extensive destruction.
She may be fake, but she has better taste than you. :p
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"Untallented and clueless to the core"Just got back from seeing it - bag of shite. Just can't be bothered to say any more at this point it's got me so pissed off.
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Wait for me. I shall be merciful and quick.Hey Ady, what's the origin of your user title?
Join Space Command and then help back Jack Houston and the Necronauts!
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Son of the SunsJust saw it too. I have to say, one of the worst films I've seen. I didn't imagine they would make a worse Superman film than Superman Returns but it seems like a masterpiece compared to this. Ugh. Very disappointed.
And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.
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I am ready for the trials!LexX said:
Just saw it too. I have to say, one of the worst films I've seen. I didn't imagine they would make a worse Superman film than Superman Returns but it seems like a masterpiece compared to this. Ugh. Very disappointed.
Glad I saved my money.
But isn't Superman IV considered the worst in the franchise by fans? (Or at least until Man of Steel arrived) Granted, Superman Returns was bland and pointless; and the later Reeve films at least have some camp value.
Sounding like a broken record since May 2006.
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Everything is a psyop!This was more like "Man of Steal" (my money).
I walked out of this film just after the jet attack, and Superman crashing into the IHOP with one of the villains. Product placement sure can be annoying. These overload of CGI shows hold absolutely no wonder element for me at all. This disaster fest had no magic, no romanticism, no humor. Violent to excess is an understatement. I will never forget the pure excitement and wonder the 1978 film had. The goose bumps and thrills I got at moments like when Lois said "You got me? Who's got you?" are not to be found anyplace in this poorly scripted mess. Glenn Ford was in the original for less then 10 minutes of screen time, yet his Jonathan Kent's emotional tear jerking death felt like a dear old friend had just passed. They sure don't make them like they used to! I've been following the progress of this film's production over the last few years, and very sad that it's turned out to be total disappointment for me.
"I stay in debt because I pattern myself after America. When America pays her bills, I'm gonna pay mine!" - Dick Gregory
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Just a simple manYou should have stayed for the ending.
Superman tells Lois, "I'm really hungry from all that fighting. Do you like pancakes?"
Lois responds, "I don't like pancakes. I love them. But all the roads are destroyed."
Superman then says, "Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads. Grab my arm, it's IHOP time."
“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.” - The Bearded One
Warbler
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South Jersey DevilSilverWook said:
If they want a compelling villain we haven't seen in a Supes movie before, and someone Superman can fight toe to toe, there's only one way to go, and that's Darkseid. There probably saving him for the Justice League flick though.
um . . . what about Doomsday? Superman can certainly fight him toe to toe and he has not been in any theatrical release yet.
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See You, Space Cowboy...Although I agree Doomsday wouldn't be a bad choice either I'm gonna side with SilverWook and say that Darkseid would make a great villain for another Superman movie. There's so much to pull from in Jack Kirby "New Gods" world -- and as far as I know he's a much more interesting villain than Doomsday if only because of his motivations and backstory.
That said, I think he'd be best for a Justice League movie. In my dream world that movie would go like the end of Superman TAS where Darkseid drives Superman mad and he almost destroys the world... that would be interesting.
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Now that they've got Zod out of the way, it would make sense for the sequel to feature Luthor, Darkseid for the JL film, and Doomsday for the post-JL film.
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adywan said:
Just got back from seeing it - bag of shite. Just can't be bothered to say any more at this point it's got me so pissed off.
Ady are you more a fan of the original Christopher Reeve film?
I haven't seen Man of Steel yet. I've been a bit apprehensive as I really love the Christopher Reeve films.
SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!Not sure how they could do Doomsday without doing the whole Death of Superman storyline though. That's an awful lot to cram into one movie.