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Lord of the Rings - TTT - The Re-Edited Re-Edit Book Cut! (Released)

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Hello!

I’d like to say that I re-edited my old TTT Book-cut. BEcause the old one was in terrible shape and had ugly sound-sync
problems and… it just wasn’t good enough! So I went and did it ALL over again. It was fun anyways…

This is “Book 3: The Treason of Isengard” here are the re-furbished changes! Enjoy…

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The beginning I like the most… it feels like an actual theatrical beginning. It’s the rest of the Amon Hen fight… that’s where Boromir dies and
the hobbits are taken. Aragorn comes to his aid and there’s the death scene dramatic dialogue exchange thing. Then after the rest of the FOTR
aragorn/legolas/gimli stuff… they run off to “The Two Towers”!

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Notice that around 80% of the film is re-graded. It’s has alot more color to it… shown in this picture.
Now you can actually see all kinds of stuff that wasn’t that noticeable when it was desaturated.

After the company find out Merry and Pippin escaped to Fangorn, like in the book, we skew back to what happened to the hobbits
all this time. From the time Merry gets his ‘medicine’ to the part where Fangorn marches to Isengard… please note that I cut out alot of Entmoot
jokes and stuff. Trying to make it as short as possible.

We get back to the dwarf, elf, and not-yet-king as they look for the hobbits in fangorn. Then they meet spoiler Gandalf the White! I bet you never saw
that coming! And there we see the whole balrog fight… from the falling in the chasm to the Zirak-Zigil brawl.

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Everything goes on without seeing any Frodo or Sam… until we cut from Gandalf Talking to Aragorn in the night (in the EE) to something that’s not really in the book at this point in time, but I needed to put it in for some backstory of the Rohan guys… It’s the scenes where Eomer finds Theodred and he gets banished and Wormtongue talks to Eowyn, ect. All the Rohan stuff… until the fellowship arrive. I took out the burial ceremony of Theodred… I’m sorry…

Everything goes in sequence (without cutting back to Isengard stuff or anything with Frodo). I took out the Warg attack… it’s not in the book.
It would have been cool to see the wargs in Helm’s Deep though! Why didn’t they do that!? So when Aragorn sees the Army… he’s just taking a stroll
around the area at Helm’s Deep and comes back.

Now… the Helm’s Deep stuff… NO ELVES! And the whole sequence is UNCUT! By the way… I couldn’t COMPLETELY elminate the Elves… some still exist in the background.
And yes, Legolas’s skateboard stunt is also taken out.

After the fight… there’s the guys traveling to Isengard to talk to Saruman. I added more color to that too… to make it look more real.
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as you can see…

There’s more Rohan ROTK scenes until Gandalf rides with Pippin to Gondor… and we fade out with a voice-over of Gandalf saying “All our hopes now lie with two little hobbits… somewhere in the wilderness.”

and that’s pretty much the bulk of the things I edited on this version…

I’ll be talking about “Book 4: The Ring Goes East” later on.

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Sounds good! I'm a bit wary of what sounds like a lot of flashbacks, but it'll be interesting.
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Originally posted by: ShiftyEyes
Sounds good! I'm a bit wary of what sounds like a lot of flashbacks, but it'll be interesting.


Unless I am mistaken (and it has been some time since I read the book last) all the flashbacks mentioned are pretty much the order of things in the book. For example after Gandalf meets Aragon and co. is when he tells them about his battle with the balrog, so it makes sense not to show that scene until that point in the film. Sounds like your doing some good work Phillock. I look forward to seeing these sometime (I hope) in the near future.

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Phillock, what program did you use to add more color to the film and regrade it?


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Originally posted by: C3PX
Unless I am mistaken (and it has been some time since I read the book last) all the flashbacks mentioned are pretty much the order of things in the book. For example after Gandalf meets Aragon and co. is when he tells them about his battle with the balrog, so it makes sense not to show that scene until that point in the film.
I'm aware of that, but in the movie format, it can be a little overwhelming. My concern was more directed at reinstating all the Eomer stuff later into the film. It might be odd, since we already saw him earlier, but I'll trust that Phillock has it covered.
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likewise, ShiftyEyes...

anyway... on to Disc 4: The Ring Goes East.

It's all Frodo and Sam from now on... and most of it is also re-graded with more color and stuff... The dead marshes are a bit more brown in hue... I felt that it was severly too desaturated ( I know to show how bleak it is...) but in real life... things don't necessarily go black and white usually.

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In this version, Faramir is a nicer guy... even though he's not like in the books where he just lets them go, (yeah I wanted to do that too...) but there's an abbreviated Osgiliath scene. The reason I left all that in was that I couldn't just cut away to him happily taking the hobbits to a better path. It would have been alittle too fast and kinda funny too. Osgiliath is pretty much re-colored.

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I also took some grading liberties... As the Ringwraith approaches (osgiliath and The Dead Marshes) things turn darker. Because, honestly, I thought they "humanized" the Nazgul too much. They're scary, yeah, but what about a black mystical aura? That would have made the Wraiths more spiritual and more evil than seen in the films... and it's more accurate to the book, I think.

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And yes, there's the whole Crossroads, Minas Morgul, Stairs, and Shelob sequences in this version as well... and if your'e thinking about the taking out of the
Sam and Frodo parting thing... I can't... it wouldn't work well. They didn't film it that way

So it will be available soon... please ask me any questions about these cuts! Thanks!

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bump....

THE TWO TOWERS... coming Soooooon!

really soon...

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Were you able to fix the Ents deciding (at first) to not go to Isengard? That's one of the biggest things that bothered me about the movie. I'm not sure if it's even doable without overdubbing Treebeard. Other than that, it should be easy enough to cut the rest of the footage out and just show a straight cut to the Ents March.
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For my cut, I just had the Entmoot scene, and the next time I cut to them was when all of the other Ents are marching out of the forest, so it was implied that they made the right decision.

Phillock, what did you do with the Gollum origin scene from ROTK? For the versions I made, I added it as a flashback during the scene where Frodo talks to Gollum the first time after the Dead Marshes scene. It's what was originally intended and I find it fits quite well if you cut directly from Andy Serkis as Smeagol slipping on the Ring for the first time to the Nazgul popping up since they have a similar sound effect.
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ah crap... that was the scene I almost completely forgot!
I really should have added it into the part after he says "Smeagol." at the dead marshes (like what you said)... but I didn't even try... I really just forgot... terrible, terrible.

concerning the part at the Entmoot.... they talk until Merry says "this has been going on for hours" and
Fangorn turns and says "We have just agreed." and it cuts to the part where he takes them to the chopped down forest, he gets angry and Calls for all the Ents. CUT back to Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli at the forest of fangorn....


I'll make a cool Book-cut chronology graph sometime for fun... or when I have some time to spare, to show you where I placed each scene.

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Ok, never mind... I made a Chronology graph for Disc 3... here you will see different pictures (going from left to right) that show you the sequence of how the film is cut.

if you have no clue about certain things... tell me...


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Originally posted by: Lord Phillock

concerning the part at the Entmoot.... they talk until Merry says "this has been going on for hours" and
Fangorn turns and says "We have just agreed." and it cuts to the part where he takes them to the chopped down forest, he gets angry and Calls for all the Ents. CUT back to Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli at the forest of fangorn....


Sweet! I can't wait to see this!

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AWESOME!! The unnatural color look of all three films always bothered me. Like the star wars dvd's, it never looked natural. A good example is from the Rivendell meeting which is in gold color tone. The people almost look like they are on the Simpsons. I'm glad you are restoring the color as I think the proper term for what they did with the films should be called digital degrading. Did you try to add color where you thought it was needed or did you actually try to undo the digital grading and make it more reflective of the original film print?

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I just added color where I thought it was needed... wich is around 75% of the movie. The dead marshes are more brown (less grey), Helm's deep has no apparent change , and Osgiliath has a bunch more color than it used to... it looked like it was Black and White!

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All RIGHT!

The Two Towers Book-Cut Disc 3 is now OFFICIALLY available for Bittorrent Consumption!

Check it out at Demonoid.com!!!

GO! GO!

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You are planning to seed this, right?
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uhh... yeah.

it's now a 6 GB Dual-Layer "vob" thing... it can fit your Dual Layer DVD players...

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Originally posted by: Lord Phillock
uhh... yeah.

it's now a 6 GB Dual-Layer "vob" thing... it can fit your Dual Layer DVD players...


Yay!
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there is something ImportanT I have to tell all of you....

I'm leaving for vacation to europe for a few months... I'll be back in august...
this will have all the files I'm uploading pause temporarily (because the internet connection back there is terribly expensive and is dial-up, so leaving it like that would be cost-effective... alot...)

So, I'll see you guys later... I will be on sometimes, but uploading will have to wait.. I hope all of you will be patient enough...

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Thanks for your work Lord Phillock and have a safe and enjoyable vacation. I will put the first Two Towers torrent on pause when you leave and I look forward to completing it when you return.
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I've just found this thread - wow, this looks good.

Where on earth can I get it?

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Lord Phillock, please contact me via email or turn you PM on. Boon23's email

Nothing about fanediting is easy.

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All right everyone!

I'm back!

Go download the TTT book cut and FOTR disc 2 if you haven't!

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Hi Lord Phillock,

Hope you had a great holiday?

What site(s) is TTT's up on please?

Thanks