you settings are a bit too extreme. R2's blue is so oversaturated that it's what is causing the undesired colour bleeding around his panels. It's also destroying the skin tones and its a little too green shifted in some areas. I'm sorry to say but Lukes face in Ben's hut looks horrendous. It seems as if you have darkened the shaded areas of the skin tones and made them look very unnatural. If you are going by the technicolor screen shots you should be able to see how different yours looks. It's still possible to get the GOUT to look resemble the technicolor prints, but you just need to ease off your settings.

dark_jedi, Adywan Thanks for the feedback! How do these look:



On the left is the setting I was using on the right is my latest revision.

That does look a lot better now. Don't rely too much on those technicolor pictures because the levels etc seem to vary quite a bit, which is natural if you are attempting to capture something off a cinema screen without correctly setting the white balance and exposure prior to doing this. The only way to truly know what the correct colours of star wars is would be have a professionally scanned copy of the movies, from different prints with nothing done to them and then make a comparison

A couple more, same layout as before:

Lee, don't lose heart. You're doing sterling work, and I for one would very much like to see you complete this.

Thanks Video Collector I really appreciate the encouragement! ;)

Here are some more comparisons of the raw GOUT vs my latest colour grade:



Only now when I compare this colour grade with what I had before can I see just how extreme they were. LOL This is why I need feedback because its so easy to become blind-sighted on a project like this.

Some Pics from the latest colour grade:






As always let me know what you think :)

LeeThorogood said:

The problem is where would you draw the line? How long would it be before correcting the unwanted side effects would lead to a scene by scene correction?

 As I said in the other thread, having different settings for each reel might be a more reasonable solution than having different settings for each scene.

But I think it's looking pretty great, considering that it's the GOUT.

Have we got a reference for what exact shade of yellow of the crawl text should be?

The crawl will always look green. This is because that shot is not red shifted like the rest of film, so it just gets the green boosted. That shot is tacked on to the GOUT so it doesn't have the red problem. So, get the crawl right and the rest of the film won't look correct if you are just using one setting. I would say, do a custom setting for the crawl and leave the rest of the film the way you have it.

zombie84 said:

The crawl will always look green. This is because that shot is not red shifted like the rest of film, so it just gets the green boosted. That shot is tacked on to the GOUT so it doesn't have the red problem. So, get the crawl right and the rest of the film won't look correct if you are just using one setting. I would say, do a custom setting for the crawl and leave the rest of the film the way you have it.

You know it's gotta be a hack job when even the fans can tell 2 different sources were used for the same crappy transfer......makes you wonder if the upcoming Bluray releases will be more of this same shoddy workmanship to fool the masses with.

It always makes me wonder if all GL's verbal subterfuge and re-editing of everything including his own words regarding his life, the history of all his films, and everything last thing connected to them is just due to him not wanting to share creative credit, monetary credit, or the joy with anyone but himself....and maybe Spielberg.....so sad.  

Thanks for all the feedback everyone! :D I will see what I can do about the crawl but other then that I would say this colour grade is finished! :)

I just have one more VTS to run through AviSynth tonight and then I will be ready to take the whole film into Color and apply the colour grading.

I agree that the lastest version of the color correction looks way better than the previous setting used. The skins tones still have an odd darkness in some scenes, but are ok in other scenes, but that can't be fixed unless scene-by-scene adjustments are made to correct for that.

Overall it's very nice, and much closer to the original vibrant film colors than the GOUT. :)

Dunedain, thanks for the feedback. :D

So I started rendering the colour corrected version last night and man it is taking sooooo much longer this time! Previously my iMac would render out the whole film at 576p overnight, at 2k or 2x576p its taken over night just to do up to the end of the garage scene! I hope this is a good sign that the end result will be a better quality than previously. :)

Before I do a DVD release what I thought I might do is upload a H.264 MKV to the newsgroup that people can download and watch then feedback over how the colour correction looks in motion and if there are any problems of glitches I might have missed. This way I can try and fix them before I do the final release in the form of a DVD9 image.

LeeThorogood said:

Dunedain, thanks for the feedback. :D

So I started rendering the colour corrected version last night and man it is taking sooooo much longer this time! Previously my iMac would render out the whole film at 576p overnight, at 2k or 2x576p its taken over night just to do up to the end of the garage scene! I hope this is a good sign that the end result will be a better quality than previously. :)

Before I do a DVD release what I thought I might do is upload a H.264 MKV to the newsgroup that people can download and watch then feedback over how the colour correction looks in motion and if there are any problems of glitches I might have missed. This way I can try and fix them before I do the final release in the form of a DVD9 image.

This is kind of you.  It's a win/win for everyone interested.

Thanks Lee, for all that you have done and are doing.

:)

Thanks Jetrell. :)

Here is a question for you all. As a percentage how accurate/close to the colour timing of the Technicolor print would you say ANH from the '97SE is? Not taking the pinkness of Mos Eisley into account. ;)

LeeThorogood said:
Here is a question for you all. As a percentage how accurate/close to the colour timing of the Technicolor print would you say ANH from the '97SE is? Not taking the pinkness of Mos Eisley into account. ;)

In the theater it was very close to it in the scenes that were left intact I guess, but on video it's not, impossible to say, it's not only Mos Eisley that have a pink shift, there's also a heavy blue shift in some scenes, combined with lousy contrast levels. But some scenes do look damn good, just like I remember it, but they are few. Sad but true.