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Jonno's avatar
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budwhite said:

Technical mumbo jumbo. But it's interesting. Thanks for the info.

 

 

And he was using layman's terms, too...

Love the cover, d_j. I might have to steal that label idea for my VHS-style covers - I could never fully decide what a DVD disc made in 1983 would look like, but that's a very good start!

dark_jedi's avatar
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Jonno said:

Love the cover, d_j. I might have to steal that label idea for my VHS-style covers - I could never fully decide what a DVD disc made in 1983 would look like, but that's a very good start!

 

All credit for the covers goes to Segaflip,he did those up for our release years ago,I am thinking about just altering it for this release.

budwhite's avatar
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any updates? I love this(and similar) projects :D

dark_jedi's avatar
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budwhite said:

any updates? I love this(and similar) projects :D

Yes there are some updates,ALL manual IVTC is done,finally,and we are working on finishing up a script now,I am also clearing up drive space for ESB.

Arnie.d's avatar
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This is looking pretty good DJ. What filters are you using for chroma noise and rainbowing?

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dark_jedi's avatar
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We are still working on that,should have more samples soon,the manual IVTC is a bitch amongst other things,I think the 97' SE Trilogy is going to be a piece of cake compared to this Trilogy.

also sent you a PM(Arnie.d)

 

dark_jedi's avatar
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Does anyone know how to get rid of these darn frames?
It is right between the scene change,it is also the very start of the LD,and to me it seems to have the same interlace pattern,but I am so tired of looking at this now maybe it isn't.

 

Last edited on July 23, 2009 at 1:35 AM by dark_jedi
RidgeShark's avatar
RE: Star Wars Trilogy JSC "Take 2"

For this problem (and possibly even the whole film), I highy recommend using animeIVTC.  It is hands down the best automated avisynth IVTC tool I've ever used.  Try the settings (mode=1, aa=0, killcomb=0).  The default killcomb setting is 1, but I'd steer clear of it as it ever so slightly softens fine image detail. The 1 setting is best for slightly noisy VHS sources that don't have any fine detail in the first place - it shouldn't be needed for a decent LD capture.

Last edited on July 23, 2009 at 4:58 AM by RidgeShark
dark_jedi's avatar
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RidgeShark,

That filter works pretty damn good on those F'd up scene changes,but it surely won't do the whole film,some spots are really messed up looking with this filter,so I am trying to do my manual IVTC but throw this in to clean up just those few F'd up parts,but every time I run it,right when it goes back to my manual settings it repeats itself for some reason,then moves on,here is what I have,now keep in mind this is just a sample part of the script,I am just messin around see'ing if it will even work for me.

part1=DoubleWeave().Pulldown(2,4).trim(0,3530)
part2=AnimeIVTC(mode=1, aa=0, killcomb=0).Trim(3531,4175)
part3=DoubleWeave().Pulldown(2,4).trim(4176,3979)
part4=DoubleWeave().Pulldown(0,2).trim(3980,13128)
part5=DoubleWeave().Pulldown(2,4).trim(13129,39085)
part1+part2+part3+part4+part5

 

Thanks for this filter though,I could see this coming in very handy.

RidgeShark's avatar
RE: Star Wars Trilogy JSC "Take 2"

I'm glad it's helping with those troubled spots.  Strange about the repetition problem, though.

Right now I'm trying out one of the filter's modes to restore a bad NTSC to PAL conversion.  It's going to take about 5-6 days to process 5 minutes of video.  Like the documentation stresses, "It's quality vs speed".

Last edited on July 23, 2009 at 3:19 PM by RidgeShark
dark_jedi's avatar
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OK the friggin lossless IVTC'd and cropped ready to go avi is FINALLY finished,all 6 of the shit frames are gone!

just as soon as I get the subtitle placement ready I will upload a sample for you guys to gander at.

also on a side note,I was looking at the interlace patterns on side 1 of Star Wars 97' Special Edition and it is NO WHERE near as bad as this one,because if you have been following me,the 97' SE "Take 2" Trilogy is next.

budwhite's avatar
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any news?

dark_jedi's avatar
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Still fighting these damn VDub warnings,and I was told they CAN'T be ignored,it has to be figured out and corrected before I can make the lossless avi for the DVD.

dark_jedi's avatar
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Might have finally figured out the source of the problem,now to either figure out a workaround,or approach things differently.

skyjedi2005's avatar
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How come you are not doing PCM audio?

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dark_jedi's avatar
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skyjedi2005 said:

How come you are not doing PCM audio?

 

maybe I might,maybe I won't,not sure yet,did not plan on making this a DL DVD.

skyjedi2005's avatar
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Thats fine man just asking,lol.

The digital tracks on the laserdiscs i'm sure were a revelation in the late eighties when these suckers first came out.

Still a very nice set.  I only hate the subtitles and wish i could remove them.

Though i have the same problem with my episode 1 laserdisc. 

I wish the subs were a selective thing encoded on the laserdisc and not burned in.

Some were like that they had Laserdisc closed captioning or subtitles but you needed a seperate decoder unlike dvd.  You could not just decode them with the chip in your television set like you could cc broadcasts or vhs tapes.

The japanese also had something on their laserdiscs called LD-G.

Last edited on August 5, 2009 at 4:36 AM by skyjedi2005

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Last edited on August 17, 2009 at 2:08 PM by dark_jedi
dark_jedi's avatar
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edited.

 

 

 

Last edited on August 17, 2009 at 2:08 PM by dark_jedi
Arnie.d's avatar
RE: Japanese Special Collection Star Wars Trilogy "Take 2"
dark_jedi said:

Does anyone know how to get rid of these darn frames?
It is right between the scene change,it is also the very start of the LD,and to me it seems to have the same interlace pattern,but I am so tired of looking at this now maybe it isn't.

 

 

 Does the script remove these frames or does it actually restore them?

Could you also tell what the other 5 are? I guess I missed some of them...

Your screenshots look pretty good DJ. Excellent transfer!

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budwhite's avatar
RE: Japanese Special Collection Star Wars Trilogy "Take 2"

Watched the clip. It looks so alive compared to the gout. More colors, more old school I think. Great quality on the cloose-ups but not much detail in the last scene of the movie. Overall, great vibe watching this

ChainsawAsh's avatar
RE: Japanese Special Collection Star Wars Trilogy "Take 2"

Just watched the sample - it looks pretty impressive.  Really takes me back to watching the pre-DC VHS tapes when I was a kid - despite the fact that there's obviously less detail than the GOUT/DC transfer, it's much brighter and (as budwhite said) more "alive."  And no horrendous DVNR smearing!

Great job, DJ!

edwardar's avatar
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That looks great. I did notice some edge enhancement artefacts though.. it's visible in several scenes, for example see the back of Darth's.. erm... dress. Here, next to the white line I drew. It's visible as a halo wherever you have two different colours with a high contrast between them:

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I was wondering if this was a feature of the source, or of post-capture filtering. Either way, I'd take some EE over DVNR smearing any day!

Aleksbmw's avatar
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Yes i agree on the DVNR issue, some scenes in my DC are pretty bad.. one time in the ice base when the general turns around and they cut to outside is just a blue / grey mess.

Laserdisc for life, Denon LA3500, Sony C2ex/+\Mdp999 "Hercules"

dark_jedi's avatar
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After looking at all these frames and stuff with this Laserdisc set I have come to this conclusion,this set really sux,you can see some weird smear marks between some scenes like where they glued it together,and the frame like I showed above,among other stuff I have seen,but WE will make it the best we can.

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