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fishmanlee
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It would be nice if Williams could atleast do like he did for Superman IV and write themes/music for Giacchino to work with.
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/
Trooperman
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Jedi Knightfishmanlee said:
It would be nice if Williams could atleast do like he did for Superman IV and write themes/music for Giacchino to work with.
That could work really well. Or could have John Williams in a supervisory capacity, kind of an apprenticeship for Giacchino. "That cue is good, this one needs some work, let me rewrite these bars, etc."
That way the new generation is being trained and you have Williams' brilliance combined with youthful energy like Giacchino.
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Padawan LearnerSilverWook said:
I wasn't aware Joel Goldsmith had died. It certainly didn't get the media coverage his father's passing did.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/01/joel-goldsmith-dead-star-trek-stargate-dies_n_1467429.html
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Double standards!!Trooperman said:
fishmanlee said:
It would be nice if Williams could atleast do like he did for Superman IV and write themes/music for Giacchino to work with.
That could work really well. Or could have John Williams in a supervisory capacity, kind of an apprenticeship for Giacchino. "That cue is good, this one needs some work, let me rewrite these bars, etc."
That way the new generation is being trained and you have Williams' brilliance combined with youthful energy like Giacchino.
That's actually a really good idea. I hope Giacchino does get the role, although I hope Williams does get to be involved somehow too. I really like Giacchino's scores, being a trumpet player myself I love the way he uses brass.
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Son of the Sunsgobalicious said:
I'm surprised by the amount of dislike towards the PT scores. They are the only thing in the PT I can hold at an equal level with the OT. I admit AOTC was the most forgettable, except for the love theme. I think some of the hate on how the rest of the movies played out gets unfairly mixed with the score. If you can detach yourself from everything that happened in the PT they are quite enjoyable on their own.
Of course I would love to see John Williams involved, but I know he is getting old. Hopefully he can make it to the end of the ST. Williams also isn't in his prime anymore. I think I'd like it best if he collaborated with another younger composer who could take the reigns for all Star Wars movies in the future. Michael Giacchino would be an excellent choice. I've enjoyed all his work, in particular Star Trek.
Well, I mean, they're fine. But when you listen to the OT scores, more specifically SW and TESB, you can really just follow the movie just by listening to the soundtracks. They're epic, they really tell the story by themselves. PT music is more like background music, it has its moments but otherwise it's almost forgettable. Also the scores got terribly cut for the films.
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fishmanlee
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Well, it helps that the OT got nice deluxe 2 disc chronological releases, where the PT scores are 1 CD album edits (except for TPM with the Ultimate Edition).
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/
LexX
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Son of the Sunsfishmanlee said:
Well, it helps that the OT got nice deluxe 2 disc chronological releases, where the PT scores are 1 CD album edits (except for TPM with the Ultimate Edition).
Of course, but I wasn't talking about the soundtrack releases, just the scores themselves.
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fishmanlee
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Well, You mentioned you could follow the story with the OT, I argued that was because the music for the OT is presented complete, and in chronological order.
The PT, is Abridged, and presented in a different order, because John Williams, thought it made a more concertlike listening experience (so a lot of good music, that was either replaced by tracked/duplicated material, or unused is not presented..)
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/
Jonno
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Pa pa, pa pa, pa pa, pa pa, pa pa paThe original album releases weren't chronological either, but you could never mistake which part of the film you were hearing.
fishmanlee
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Jonno said:
The original album releases weren't chronological either, but you could never mistake which part of the film you were hearing.
True.
(Though the Louder music balance in the OT films helped)
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/
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Thrawn
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I didn't really have any issues with the 2009 Star Trek music, since various Star Trek films have had different music. However I would definitely have a problem with Star Wars using a different score... the original Star Wars music is absolutely iconic, and is part of the fabric of the franchise. To replace it would be a sin, IMO. I feel the same way about the upcoming Man of Steel, as well... the music John Williams created for the Christopher Reeve Superman films is absolutely iconic, and John Ottman did the right thing in using it for Superman Returns.
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Ce n'est pas DuracellEnergizerYou do realize the Williams' theme isn't the only (or the first, for that matter) Superman theme ever written, right?
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Of course. But it is the one most commonly associated with Superman.
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I am 100% ok with John Williams doing Episode VII. I just hope it doesn't have a whole new feel to it like the PT had. The original trilogy scores were epic and had so much emotion, and everything blended together well. I didn't feel that way about the prequel trilogy in most cases. I am not blaming John Williams though. Look what he had to work with. I think the music might have been fine if the movies were great. An example is when Adywan used PT music in Revisited during the Obiwan duel, it really worked well and was exciting.
Regarding Man of Steel, I have mixed feelings about it. Initially I liked the idea of Superman Returns using the music, but after seeing the movie, it felt out of place. I associate the music with the Christopher Reeve films. Superman Returns wasn't really part of those films although it had a lot to do with them. Man of Steel is a complete reboot, so after going through it with Superman Returns, I feel that a new score is the right choice. With that being said, this is pretty awesome (blend of John Williams score): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvdBvJi_eRQ
fishmanlee
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You can blame Harry Potter, E.T. Etc. for that.
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/
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give me the unaltered OT and PTThat's a hard thing to convince people of. The affections for that movie, score and actor long ago degenerated into something resembling a cult.DuracellEnergizer said:
You do realize the Williams' theme isn't the only (or the first, for that matter) Superman theme ever written, right?
All I really want is each film as it was originally seen and heard in theaters; no fixes, corrections, "improvements" or modifications necessary.
J.J. Abrams Will Direct, Now Who Will Score?