Very interesting! Every attempt to create a fully working system to use different versions together to get more detail is great.

Jetrell Fo: Do you mean to detect differences in frame count between different versions? I think doing that "by hand" would be much faster.

You_Too: The final result of this experiment would only be a "Technidisc Deluxe": adding detail from a HD source to the Technidisc. I'm not sure if accumulating detail from multiple SD sources would give us any more than we have with the GOUT now, ironically. The GOUT itself could also be added to the mix of course, if we could find a way to cancel out any DVNR-plagued data.

New samples:

I re-registered this frame from Moth3r's PAL DVD, Alignment is much better. I also did some refinements in the composition phase (when the detail is added to the Technidisc frame) so it doesn't look so crude now as with some of the first batch of samples did.

Two new frames:

I'm working on a video sample now.

That is interesting work, I have some registration routines I can share with you going forwards with this.

Are you attempting a super-resolution output from the result?

Two different telecines will capture details that is missed on each on its own.

Fine detail data may land on a scanline on one transfer and not on the other, and vice-versa. It should be possible to recover both lots of data and end up with a better capture than either of the originals at a higher resolution.

poita said:

That is interesting work, I have some registration routines I can share with you going forwards with this.

 

Are you attempting a super-resolution output from the result?

Two different telecines will capture details that is missed on each on its own.

Fine detail data may land on a scanline on one transfer and not on the other, and vice-versa. It should be possible to recover both lots of data and end up with a better capture than either of the originals at a higher resolution.

 

Registering many versions and multiplexing them in a super-resolution manner would also be possible. I went with the DeEd because it has all the details you'll ever have with this movie, and you have to do only one registration pass to get it. :)

I'll have to do a bit of a clean-up on the code, and after that I will upload it somewhere for anyone who may want to try it.

Video sample: link.

I uploaded the program itself if anyone wants to look at it. For instructions see the readme.txt. Link.

_,,,^..^,,,_: The method of extracting detail from the DeEd frames after registration is similar to what's described here. I made the first sample frames in Photoshop, and the video sample is made with this Avisynth script:

tech = ImageSource(fix\tech/04d.png", start=20, fps=23.976).Trim(0,609)

reg = ImageSource("output\test%04d.png", start=6, fps=23.976).Trim(0,609)

 

techblur = tech.GCBlur().GCBlur()

 

reg_ovl = reg.Invert().GCBlur().GCBlur()

reg_detail = Overlay(reg, reg_ovl, opaity=0.5, mode="Blend")

 

hardlight = Overlay(techblur, reg_detail, mode="HardLight")

softlight = Overlay(techblur, reg_detail, mode="SoftLight")

 

luma = Overlay(softlight, hardlight, opacity=0.75)

result = Overlay(tech.ConvertToYV12(), luma.ConvertToYV12(), mode="Luma")

 

return StackVertical(tech.ConvertToYV12(), result)

 

 

################

 

function GCBlur(clip input)

{

return input.ConvertToRGB32().GeneralConvolution(0, "

10 10 10 10 10

10 10 10 10 10

10 10 16 10 10

10 10 10 10 10

10 10 10 10 10", 256, False)

}

The GeneralConvolution function in Avisynth seems to serve this method much better than Photoshop's blur filter. Looking at the samples in my first post now, they don't look convincing at all.

msycamore: I know you are a perfectionist so I hope you don't take it as an insult when I say: I think you did a very god job with what you had. :) Seriously, your DVD shows more of what SW could or should be color-wise than any other video version, so that's what makes it valuable. The only other transfer of SW that has validity in it's color palette IMO is the early PNS with the soft skin tones (after lowering the gamma), but that is a re-interpretation of the SW look for video, while the Tech is closer to the real thing. Thanks for releasing it on DVD!