WhatsMyName said:

btw, what is the URL to myspleen? i try to enter it in the address bar, but it can't find it

Ever heard of Google?

TV's Frink said:

WhatsMyName said:

btw, what is the URL to myspleen? i try to enter it in the address bar, but it can't find it

Ever heard of Google?

Actually we just had to change our domain to .org so if you google "myspleen" the .cc address. That being said, .cc is still working so if you do google "myspleen" the .cc site will open just fine.

All the episodes have a commentary. They're just quick little videos that have Dave explaining some of the behind the scenes decisions that went on for each particular episode.

I love it immensely. I catch it every Friday it's on, and that's saying a lot because I don't watch any other TV series.

Sure, you get a crappy Jar-Jar episode or something now and then, but the good episodes outweigh the bad by far.

I don't believe you need any further testimony.

WhatsMyName said:

The one thing that pissed me off about the series, when GL was advising about Jango Fett and the mandolorians, He freakin' declared Jango Fett not a Mandolorian!

That and he screwed up what Mandalore actually looked like. The moon the terrorist were on looked more like the Mandalore that i always read about.

One of those things that i dismiss and say, "It never happened".

Stupid ahiwa bait!

Who cares? That's Karen Traviss trash...

WhatsMyName said:

Trash? The republic Commando series was awsome! it gave a good background to the mandolorians and their culture. More over, the planet matched their unique culture!

Oh right. Making them a bunch of Boba Fett's is so unique... Boba is nobody now.

I'm not really certain you can be considered a fan of something if you can't spell the name of that something. =P

Anyway. Traviss can go parachute-less basejumping for all I care. She made Boba Fett cry, and Boba Fett does not cry. I'm all for the Mandalorians being a people with a culture and everything, the old comics with Fenn and Tobbi were sweet, and I'm fine with the whole Death Watch thing from Open Seasons, I loved KOTOR and the Mandalorian stuff from Tales of the Jedi, and I was even on board with Traviss for awhile, until she started with the inventing the language and writing all the fan-ficcy Mandalorian bullshit. I'll take a lot of abuse as a Star Wars fan, but you make the Fettman cry, and you've earned an enemy for life. One of the happiest days of my life was when she had her hissy fit and quit ruining my Mandalorians.

The Clone Wars depiction of the Mandalorians is fine by me, too, so far. I'm guessing that as far as the Hidalgo/Chee continuity goes, the wasteland is just a section of the jungle planet that is Mandalore. And it makes sense that after suffering so many losses that someone charismatic enough could come in and talk the people into giving peace a chance.

As long as Saltine (I can't not think that) dies a horrible and ignominious death at the hands of the Death Watch and Mandalore returns to its warrior ways (though I'd rather see a resurgence of Jaster's True Mandalorians than the Death Watch taking charge), I'll be pleased as punch.

Tyrphanax said:

I'm not really certain you can be considered a fan of something if you can't spell the name of that something. =P

lol

TV's Frink said:

Tyrphanax said:

I'm not really certain you can be considered a fan of something if you can't spell the name of that something. =P

lol

"I sense something; a presence I've not felt since... (haljordan)"

WhatsMyName said:

Alexrd said:

WhatsMyName said:

Trash? The republic Commando series was awsome! it gave a good background to the mandolorians and their culture. More over, the planet matched their unique culture!

Oh right. Making them a bunch of Boba Fett's is so unique... Boba is nobody now.

 but they weren't Bobba Fetts. They all have unique personalities. Besides, they acted like Mandolorians and not copy cats of their original host.

If you wanted to compare them to Bobba Fett from the movies, you'd fine there's a huge difference between the clones and him.

What? No. They all wear Boba Fett' armor, and they are a bunch of loners. If that's not what Boba Fett is, then I don't know what he is.

To put it simple, Boba Fett's uniqueness is gone.

I wonder why there was never a petition before for all those (pre-TCW) continuity conflicts.

Double standards, that's what it is.

Alexrd said:

WhatsMyName said:

Alexrd said:

WhatsMyName said:

Trash? The republic Commando series was awsome! it gave a good background to the mandolorians and their culture. More over, the planet matched their unique culture!

Oh right. Making them a bunch of Boba Fett's is so unique... Boba is nobody now.

 but they weren't Bobba Fetts. They all have unique personalities. Besides, they acted like Mandolorians and not copy cats of their original host.

If you wanted to compare them to Bobba Fett from the movies, you'd fine there's a huge difference between the clones and him.

What? No. They all wear Boba Fett' armor, and they are a bunch of loners. If that's not what Boba Fett is, then I don't know what he is.

To put it simple, Boba Fett's uniqueness is gone.

I haven't read any of Traviss' later stuff for obvious reasons, though I'll be getting around to it in not too long here...  but from what I've read in my obsessive browsing of Wookieepedia, the characters all seem to be differentiated at least a little. I can't really make that call, though. I have a hard time believing she's capable of making a character as unique as Boba has been made over the years.

And of course they all wear the same style armour. What are they gonna wear stormtrooper armour?

Also: Boba Fett. B O (1)B A. I don't see how a person can like Mandalorians and Traviss' books and not like Boba Fett... He's the gateway to all of that.

As far as continuity goes, it's always been really fluid. In fact, I'm pretty shocked that it's been able to stay as solid as it has been over the years, considering all the hundreds of sources that have the possibility of conflicting. They've managed to keep those conflicts pretty few and far between.

Star Wars is also a risky place to play. Since George is still working with the universe, it has the potential to really turn on a dime, and we've seen that a couple times in the Clone Wars... for the authors and other folks of the lesser canons, it's like building sandcastles in someone else's sandbox. If the owner needs room to make his sandcastle, all you can really do is either inform him of its presence and hope he likes and incorporates it, but ultimately, you're going to have to stand aside and let him do his thing. A lot of the time, George seems willing to accept pre-established things and incorporate them (Asajj's backstory for one, though that was his daughter, not to mention Asajj herself, or Aayla Secura, or Quinlan Vos, or the Death Watch, The Clone Wars has really solidified a lot of lesser canon), but we're more likely to remember the times that he goes against established canon.

I have to give major credit to Dave Filoni who is an actual Star Wars nerd who has probably read, and obviously knows, a lot of the pre-established continuity, and works it into the show as much as he can, and also seems to remind George of pre-existing things that will conflict with what George wants. A lot of times, he wins those conflicts. But if George wants something a certain way, there's not much that can be done. It is his property, after all, and I hate to sound like the rape apologist in the rape support group, but as long as he holds the reins to the Star Wars IP and wants to keep expanding it himself, then we all are really subject to his whims. Doesn't mean we have to like it, or we have to stand for it, OT.com is a testament to that, for sure.

Lets have another metaphor: in 1977, we got Star Wars in a pre-release beta version. They released two major patches for it, and a huge modding community popped up. The mods were all sanctioned by George, but he was still in the process of creating his game, and so the modmakers have to accept the fact that, sure, maybe George will like their mod and add it as a feature in the final product, but other times, he'll want to take it in a different direction that conflicts with a mod and, unfortunately, that's tough luck for the modder. Most of the time it's not terrible, but sometimes he releases three crappy new patches and then goes back and "updates" the original game and breaks a bunch of features everyone loved (see, I'm still on your side). <_<

But, in the end, we just have to shrug it off and deal with it. Places like OT.com here are like the sites that popped up to emulate Star Wars: Galaxies pre-cu. Some fans want the old game back, but we also have to accept that it's changing. And it has changed in the past, and will continue to change, and we can accept what we like and denounce what we don't.

So... yeah. That's my big tangent. I don't know if it's actually directed towards anyone or if it's even on topic any more, but once I get going it's hard to stop.

WhatsMyName said:

And btw, Bobba Fett crying is not a big deal to me when he went out like a punk in ROTJ :p

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