Hopefully the last 70mm vs. 35mm ESB audio differences thread :: 1 < 2

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TServo2049's avatar
RE: Hopefully the last 70mm vs. 35mm ESB audio differences thread

As I pointed out, it's not one missing shot. When I synched up the audio, it showed that the shot before the closeup cut out early, and the closeup shot was joined in progress. The music is scored to the full version of the scene, and the music splice on your recording seems sloppy and abrupt.

If some accident occurred and that section got boogered up, the projectionist might have had to cut it out just so they could continue running the print. 70mm was expensive, so it was probably a lot harder to get a replacement print, especially on short notice.

Several seconds of footage being spliced out in the middle of a reel isn't completely unfeasible. A couple years ago, I saw a 70mm print of Ghostbusters, provided by Sony, where Bill Murray's line "So if we think of J. Edgar Hoover, J. Edgar Hoover's gonna show up and destroy us" was clipped out. Obviously, at some point down the line, that section took some kind of damage that resulted in it being cut out.

Admittedly, that was a 26-year-old print, and this ESB screening was during original release in 1980, but I'm just illustrating that it's not completely out of the realm of possibility that those missing 5 seconds were missing from that print only.

I second your interest in hearing another in-theater recording of a 70mm screening.

Last edited on April 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM by TServo2049
msycamore's avatar
RE: Hopefully the last 70mm vs. 35mm ESB audio differences thread

Yes, what strongly speaks against this being a 70mm difference is the jarring edit in the score but anything is possible I guess. We can also only speculate at this point how that sequence was cut if it was indeed 6 seconds shorter, there's more than one way it could've been handled.

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RE: Hopefully the last 70mm vs. 35mm ESB audio differences thread

TServo2049 said:

I take back what I said about the radar dish. It's actually not there in the film cell. You can see a cloud formation that is almost completely covered by the dish in the familiar version.

I swear I can see something at the bottom of the frame, but I'm not sure what. Maybe it's just damage. (I will note that in the Super 8, the bottom of the frame is cropped off.

Doesn't look cropped off to me.

Super 8:

'85 LD:

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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