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RE: High-End video capture cards

I posted a review of the Panasonic DMR-ES10's excellent comb filter here: http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?p=33347#p33347

Enjoy!

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To test the quality of a comb filter with PAL signal, it will be useful to find a Snell & Wilcox zone plate with 720x576 pixel, 25fps, lossless... does it exist?

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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

To test the quality of a comb filter with PAL signal, it will be useful to find a Snell & Wilcox zone plate with 720x576 pixel, 25fps, lossless... does it exist?

Yes, the Digital Video Essentials DVD has a PAL version.

I can send you an m2v for just the S&W Zone Plate(s), if you'd like.

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RE: High-End video capture cards

AntcuFaalb said:

Yes, the Digital Video Essentials DVD has a PAL version.

I can send you an m2v for just the S&W Zone Plate(s), if you'd like.

Thanks! It will be really useful to test a comb filter, either using it with a capture card or a DVD recorder!

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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

AntcuFaalb said:

Yes, the Digital Video Essentials DVD has a PAL version.

I can send you an m2v for just the S&W Zone Plate(s), if you'd like.

Thanks! It will be really useful to test a comb filter, either using it with a capture card or a DVD recorder!

No problem!

I'll have to send it to you in 7-8 hours; after I get off work.

I hear that many PAL comb filters are terrible, so I'm interested in seeing your results.

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AntcuFaalb said:

I posted a review of the Panasonic DMR-ES10's excellent comb filter here: http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?p=33347#p33347

Enjoy!

How comparable is this machine, hardware wise, to mine?

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RE: High-End video capture cards

Jetrell Fo said:

AntcuFaalb said:

I posted a review of the Panasonic DMR-ES10's excellent comb filter here: http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?p=33347#p33347

Enjoy!

How comparable is this machine, hardware wise, to mine?

I don't know, actually. I can't find the service manual for yours.

Not even elektrotanya.com has it and they have everything!

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RE: High-End video capture cards

AntcuFaalb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

AntcuFaalb said:

I posted a review of the Panasonic DMR-ES10's excellent comb filter here: http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?p=33347#p33347

Enjoy!

How comparable is this machine, hardware wise, to mine?

I don't know, actually. I can't find the service manual for yours.

Not even elektrotanya.com has it and they have everything!

I have my manual.  If you tell me what I'm looking for I'll gladly post the info ....  :)

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RE: High-End video capture cards

Jetrell Fo said:

AntcuFaalb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

AntcuFaalb said:

I posted a review of the Panasonic DMR-ES10's excellent comb filter here: http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?p=33347#p33347

Enjoy!

How comparable is this machine, hardware wise, to mine?

I don't know, actually. I can't find the service manual for yours.

Not even elektrotanya.com has it and they have everything!

I have my manual.  If you tell me what I'm looking for I'll gladly post the info ....  :)

You have the service manual with all of the circuit board diagrams, etc.?

Last edited on February 22, 2013 at 7:13 PM by AntcuFaalb

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No, just the operating manual, sorry.

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RE: High-End video capture cards

dark_jedi said:

So which card ended up being the one to go with? my new powerful PC does not have a video capture card and I was thinking on getting one just to have, not sure if I will ever need LD video but I guess it couldn't hurt to have 1 just in case, I have Windows 7 Pro 64-bit so which card is good and will not break the bank lol?

Thanks

and I am in the US so would need US links.

What are your requirements? 3D comb filter, etc...

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dark_jedi said:

AntcuFaalb said:

dark_jedi said:

So which card ended up being the one to go with? my new powerful PC does not have a video capture card and I was thinking on getting one just to have, not sure if I will ever need LD video but I guess it couldn't hurt to have 1 just in case, I have Windows 7 Pro 64-bit so which card is good and will not break the bank lol?

Thanks

and I am in the US so would need US links.

What are your requirements? 3D comb filter, etc...

Really whatever is good for the money, hell just give me some ideas of what you guys think are the best ones for what we all do here.

If you need a 3D comb filter and you don't mind the potential AGC issues, then go with the Diamond TVW750PCIE.

If you don't need a 3D comb filter (or a good comb filter at all, for that matter) and you're interested in something that's rock-solid reliable for both analog and digital captures, then go with the Blackmagic Intensity Pro.

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RE: High-End video capture cards

Does your PC have a thunderbolt port?

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RE: High-End video capture cards

What do you mean by reliable? I haven't heard good things about the BMIP and VHS signals.

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drngr said:

What do you mean by reliable? I haven't heard good things about the BMIP and VHS signals.

Most of the bad reviews of the BMIP come from people plugging the composite output of a crappy VCR into it; expecting the BMIP to lock onto an incredibly unstable signal.

By "reliable" I simply mean that if you (1) provide a stable signal, (2) determine that your HDD/SSD is sufficiently fast using Blackmagic's Disk Speed Test, and (3) make sure not to put your PC under heavy load while capturing, then you have as close to a guarantee as possible that the BMIP will never drop a frame or duplicate a field.

I own wayyy too many capture cards. Even my best one (before the BMIP) duplicated a field every so often.

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poita: Care to chime in? You've owned the BMIP longer than I have.

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RE: High-End video capture cards

No '90s player* has a comb filter worth using, so go for the TVW750PCIE if you are more interested in capturing LD than native S-Video, YPbPr, or digital formats.

*I would just say "no LD player" but I don't know anything about the units made in the '00s when good 3D Y/C tech could have been incorporated.

By the way AnctuFaalb, when you get a chance could you edit this post to note that you're referring to the different USB version? Or have you seen AGC problems with both TVW750USB (no 3DYC) and TVW750PCIE (has 3DYC)?

Last edited on August 25, 2013 at 6:29 PM by drngr
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drngr said:

No '90s player* has a comb filter worth using, so go for the TVW750PCIE if you are more interested in capturing LD than native S-Video, YPbPr, or digital formats.

*I would just say "no LD player" but I don't know anything about the units made in the '00s when good 3D Y/C tech could have been incorporated.

By the way AnctuFaalb, when you get a chance could you edit this post to note that you're referring to the different USB version? Or have you seen AGC problems with both TVW750USB (no 3DYC) and TVW750PCIE (has 3DYC)?

I've seen it with my TVW750USB.

For the TVW750PCIE: check out althor1138's capture of the "Pluge Pulse" test pattern and compare it to what's on DVE. http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Comb-Filter-Testing/post/636069/#TopicPost636069

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dark_jedi said:

So this is the one you guys are talking about correct?

http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Theater-PCIE-Tuner-Card/dp/B003F8O690/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3FNYQ0DFNN1CP&coliid=IWESQTQ8WK53Z

also will this capture audio as well, and if so how does that get hooked up? always need audio for sync jobs lol.

Thanks

Yes, that's it.

It looks like it uses a 1/8" stereo connection for audio.

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RE: High-End video capture cards

All of the links in althor1138's post are dead, but I have his MP4 downloaded and I'm not convinced that this digital PLUGE Pulse would actually trigger bad AGCs. I seem to recall playing it through the USB stick without it freaking out.

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