blowfish said:

maybe you could do something cooler like Adwyn and not just do crap that 8 people in the whole world want to see. talk about a nitch market!

Hmmmmm.  So only 8 people in the world want to see this, and yet you're on here, not to talk about wanting to see the movie, but wasting your time talking about people who want to see the movie?

So how pathetic does that make you?  You have so much time on your hands, and so little in your life, that you want to troll a forum catering to 8 people who want to see this?

You do realise you don't have to say another word and we know everything we need to about you, right? :)

Enjoy your "life".

Harmy's right.  Let's drop it.  I hope that he enjoys the Blu-rays as much as we enjoy the Despecialized version and that he realizes that he is wasting his time.

EDIT: Who do you think it is, Frink?  I never thought that he might be a sock.

Okay. I didn't realize that.  In that case, I think that Frink's right and that he should probably be banned.

guiser said:

For people who want the burned in sub scenes clean, would it be possible to render just those scenes by themselves sans subtitles as an extra?

They could even be encoded at a slightly higher bit rate since they may be used in other projects and thus re-compressed later.

Or could the files be stored right in another directory in the Blu-ray (only visible if the image is mounted or the disc is viewed as data)?  I thought this was possible with DVD, but have never heard of doing it with Blu-ray.

Harmy said:

Great :-)

Hey, how about in celebration of the troll being banned you release the full 16gb mkv of 2.5? Or even just the .m2ts file will do nicely. I'll even take a full bit rate 2.1 :)  

Hey, I'm normally not one to be interested in the original cuts of Star Wars, being perfectly okay with the Blu-rays myself (Minus that awful new Krayyt call), but your despecialized opening crawl will be nice for my speech on the history of ILM. Just wanted to say thanks for giving me the chance to use a historical version of the opening crawl in HD.

The fact that there was little outcry to the CGI is what makes the CGI historic.

stretch009 said:

Harmy said:

valinkrai said:

Hey, I'm normally not one to be interested in the original cuts of Star Wars, being perfectly okay with the Blu-rays myself (Minus that awful new Krayyt call), but your despecialized opening crawl will be nice for my speech on the history of ILM. Just wanted to say thanks for giving me the chance to use a historical version of the opening crawl in HD.

You're welcome :-) Though I must say I don't understand how someone who's interested in the history of ILM can be happy with the BD version of Star Wars, which replaces like 90% of ILMs historically first ever work (academy award winning work, I might add) with CGI, which now has practically no historical value whatsoever.

Wow.  90%?  I didn't realize that it was that bad.

 

I believe it would depend what constitutes replacing their work. Is re compositing changing it in the same way that replacing an X-wing with a CGI version is? I'd say no myself as it's something I firmly believe any ILM employee would have wanted to do if he had the tech at the time, but It sound about right if you consider that as changing it.

I'm of the prequel generation, coming to Star Wars after falling in love with it after getting a VHS of The Phantom Menace. I grew up renting the VHS's of the special editions from the VHS. I don't think I even knew the differences between the versions (Beyond Han shooting first) until they were advertising the "Limited 2006 release", and I picked up the original cut of Empire since I read time wise, the most had changed.  I honestly didn't care much about the differences, and for the most part, I still don't believe they change the films, though I love that you guys here are able to compensate for LucasFilm not giving options to those who don't think the same way as I do.

Personally, I'd like a copy of the original cuts, but not enough to deter me from purchasing Blu-rays when my DVDs have long since been scratched. Plus, the Blu-rays got me interested in at least seeing the historical cuts at least once, even if I was okay with changes myself. Unfortunately, I never figured out how to download Harmy's cuts, save for whatever is available through torrents, which I'm getting now, I just used the YouTube video of the Harmy opening crawl, but it should suffice, seeing as I will be presenting at 1024x768 anyway.

valinkrai said:

I believe it would depend what constitutes replacing their work. Is re compositing changing it in the same way that replacing an X-wing with a CGI version is? I'd say no myself as it's something I firmly believe any ILM employee would have wanted to do if he had the tech at the time, but It sound about right if you consider that as changing it.

Of course no self-respecting effects technician would deliberately use inferior tech - the point is that it was the very best possible at the time, and alterations (even digital recomposites) misrepresent those incredible achievements.

I honestly didn't care much about the differences, and for the most part, I still don't believe they change the films, though I love that you guys here are able to compensate for LucasFilm not giving options to those who don't think the same way as I do.

With all due respect, you don't seem particularly well qualified to talk about the history of ILM when you profess to have so little interest in that history...