blowfish said:

What kind of a stupid name is despecilized?! and who wants to watch Star Wars with all those lame 70's efects. Thank the maker Lucas decided to update those terribly old movies so why bring them back!!!!

Quick! Get the torches and pitchforks! We have a troll!

blowfish said:

What kind of a stupid name is despecilized?! and who wants to watch Star Wars with all those lame 70's efects. Thank the maker Lucas decided to update those terribly old movies so why bring them back!!!!

Haha, this has to be a joke.

We love those lame '70s effects dude that's how it works.

Thanks for your positive feedback ;)

He forgot to say original vision.  Deduct two points.

Harmy, in this shot, there seems to be a lot of purple going on:

I really just noticed it on Ben's left hand (right of frame) when he was moving his hands during "it surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together" when I was watching the other day. But when I went back to screenie the frame, I noticed it more on/around the table behind his hand, and on the metal stove.

Seriously, I'm not touching the colors any more. And why is the quality of that screenshot so god-awful?

I'm pretty sure the Close Encounters bluray has dynamic branching. It's how they have all three cuts of the film on one disc.... It's not three separate complete films...

Just looking at my BD collection - all the Alien movies have two different versions via seamless branching. Three different versions of Blade Runner on one disc. Terminator 2 has three different versions on one disc. Original and DC of Terminator Salvation on one disc. Close Encounters has already been mentioned. Apocalypse Now has two different versions too. But like Laserschwert said, it's way too difficult to do. Or rather I think to do it well - to have it play smoothly.

Jonno said:

The guy who made MultiAVCHD wrote up this tutorial on creating branched BD playlists:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154815

Basically you create each 'chunk' as a separate BD folder, then use MultiAVCHD to link them into alternative playlists (then use BDedit to remove redundant elements).

I've used this technique to link separate elements on a multi-part Blu-ray (e.g. a new logo before the main feature) - it's the best way I've found to create such compilations without actually editing them together (and thus reencoding). Might be worth a try, but results do vary from one BD player to another.

And this is where a problem comes up, when doing these BD projects you want to have your BD as compatible as it can be with all players and all PS3's all over the World, this to me is very important with all our BD releases, we are trying something all new with a project we are doing with having 2 versions of the same movie on 1 BD50 but they both will use the same audio and subs, should be interesting to say the least, and fun!

Yeah, that's exactly the thing - the way I understand it, when they are authoring seamless branching professionally, they can determine where the data for each chapter will physically be on the disc and thus make sure the playback doesn't skip during the transitions. I am fascinated by BD features like maximum movie mode as seen for example on the last two Harry Potter films and Terminator Salvation. Basically it turns the film into a similar thing like Jambe Davdar's docs, only it does it in real time, using the actual HD footage of the main feature on the disc. This would be awesome if I could do something like this on the DeEd BD, because then it could pause on each despecialized shot and explain how it was done and show some before/after footage and stuff but it's just way out of the realm of possibility here.

EDIT: That sounds really interesting DJ. Which project are you doing this for?

Harmy said:

Yeah, that's exactly the thing - the way I understand it, when they are authoring seamless branching professionally, they can determine where the data for each chapter will physically be on the disc and thus make sure the playback doesn't skip during the transitions. I am fascinated by BD features like maximum movie mode as seen for example on the last two Harry Potter films and Terminator Salvation. Basically it turns the film into a similar thing like Jambe Davdar's docs, only it does it in real time, using the actual HD footage of the main feature on the disc. This would be awesome if I could do something like this on the DeEd BD, because then it could pause on each despecialized shot and explain how it was done and show some before/after footage and stuff but it's just way out of the realm of possibility here.

EDIT: That sounds really interesting DJ. Which project are you doing this for?

Our Night of The Living Dead 1990 Special Edition BD50.

Cool - will that be two different color timing choices then?

Harmy said:

Cool - will that be two different color timing choices then?

Yes, we will have our preferred version, The Special Edition, and then the original Theatrical color timed version.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Our-Night-Of-The-Living-Dead-1990-project/post/629026/#TopicPost629026

Laserschwert said:

Even back in DVD days (they're over, right?) there were players that had problems playing discs that utilized seamless branching. But we should not forget, seamless branching and alternate angles is not the same thing. Video angles can be used if the running time is identical in all angles (and the multi language crawls on the official SW DVDs used angles), while seamless branching provides in fact alternate "playlists" of parts of a movie so the play time can differ.

Unfortunately angles are still diffcult to pull off.

The official Star Wars DVD used angles, but the BD may be seamless branched as there are seperate crawls on the disc as M2TS files.

With Blu-ray multi-angle, you actually duplicate all of the audio with each angle, so that each stream is a standalone file which are then 'interleaved' during the muxing process.

Harmy said:

This would be awesome if I could do something like this on the DeEd BD, because then it could pause on each despecialized shot and explain how it was done and show some before/after footage and stuff but it's just way out of the realm of possibility here.

Even if you cannot author your disc like this, it would make a nice framing device whereby when you select the extra, you show the scene, then 'rewind' to show how it was done - they could work quite well on their own.

And the trolling continues.

If you come to a place the main goal of which is to get the original version of Star Wars in high quality (this whole site, not just this thread) and start telling people that the original version sucks balls, you're a troll. That's all there is to it.

Honestly, I recommend just putting him on ignore.  I finally did.

I was gonna retort further but it's probably better to let the troll starve.