Thanks for another splendid improvement Harmy, it's a good thing that sample is bundled with all those little pointers regarding what remained imperfect and what you did to fix it up as I would not have been able to notice the differences with just showing 2.0 and 2.1 side by side.

Are those colors more faithful to how the lightsabers looked than in 2.0 or is this to settle previous remarks about how shiny they looked? I'm definitely on board with this if there's a step forward in getting that as close to right as possible compared to what we've seen.

Harmy, the lightsabers look fantastic. As for the sentry droid shot, I'm speechless.

Amazing improvement on the lightsaber! I love that you managed to remove that cyan-ish glow and make it pure blue.

Thanks so much for this -- I am introducing my friend's daughters to Star Wars for the first time, and wanted to make sure they saw it right.

Quick question: if I download the remastered (V2.0) of this, does it have the audio fix in it, or do I still have to do that to fix the 5.1 audio?

Thanks 

Zarquon said:

Thanks so much for this -- I am introducing my friend's daughters to Star Wars for the first time, and wanted to make sure they saw it right.

Quick question: if I download the remastered (V2.0) of this, does it have the audio fix in it, or do I still have to do that to fix the 5.1 audio?

Thanks 

The latest (2.0) does not have the fix, as far as I know. Granted, I never made it all the way through (and don't know what the error(s) are) before fixing and then just using that.

I had the same question when first coming back here and discovering this amazing project. The fix is pretty easy though, just grab the updated audio, re-mux.

Since 2.1 is so close, it'd probably only cause confusion.

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edit: speaking of 2.1, the progress is exciting! can't wait to check out the clips.

Holochess pieces look much more natural and less "neon" colored. Have to admit that was one of the few remaining things that was bothering me. THANK YOU. We ♥ you Harmy!

The 2.0 torrents at Myspleen (mkv, avchd, dvd5) all contain the fixed 5.1 audio.

 

The latest lightsaber improvements look really excellent.  ;)

Dude, the colors keep getting better! You know your going to end up going through the whole movie again to tweak the colors with your new skills/tools! You really need to have someone look at the IB scans and compare with where you are now to get more feedback on what is already close enough and what should be tweeked further. ;) (hint, hint)

-G

I just upgraded to a new computer with an ASUS PB238Q monitor and an nVidia GeForce GTX 650 video card, and its color balance is completely different from my old Dell laptop. My Dell has a warm gold cast and a somewhat desaturated look; my ASUS/nVidia combo has a more accurate white balance, but the DeEd 2.0 colors look garish and weird now.

At first I thought it was my monitor that was causing the DeEd colors to look weird, but now I'm wondering if it's my video card settings. Using the video sliders on VLC, and particularly the hue, I was able to match the colors on my new computer to the ones on my old laptop.

Here's how the Fox logo looks on my new computer with default settings:

And here's the VLC approximation of how it looks on my old laptop. It's not exact, because the colorspace of the PNG doesn't seem to match the colorspace of the player (my video card is set to only use 16-235, but the VLC snapshot may be converting the image to 0-255?). Still, it's close:

The problem is, that color setting messes up other parts of the film. Here's the lightsaber duel on my new computer:

Here's what it looks like using the same VLC settings as before:

Obviously, that's wrong. For this scene, I can't match it to how it looks on my laptop. Which is fine, this shot actually looks good with the standard colors on my new computer; on my laptop, Vader's saber looks a little less magenta and Ben's looks a little more cyan, but this is close enough. Also, I know you're planning on tweaking this scene.

I will also say that when I try to use nVidia's control panel to match the colors of video displays to my old computer, VLC's snapshots still output with the colors in the top image. (Maybe tweaking the colors for my entire desktop would fix that, but I'm not sure if those are wrong.)

Which of those images is closest to how the DeEd colors are SUPPOSED to look? Have I just gotten used to colors that are wrong, or is my display actually messed up? I'm not even sure if the images I'm posting will look to you the way they look to me.

TServo2049 said:

 I'm not even sure if these images will look to you the way they look to me.

You can be sure that they won't.

Yeah. Switching over to my old Dell, the tweaked screenshots look messed up there (which makes perfect sense because I was tweaking them to make the image on my new computer look like my old one).

If the issue is with my entire display, obviously none of the images will look to any of you the way they look to me. For all I know, the top image as it looks on my new computer IS how it's supposed to look, and my old computer is off.

But even if it's inaccurate, I will say that I like the golden, desaturated look that DeEd has on my old laptop. It sort of matches the blues, greens, and pinks I've seen on 35mm prints of Close Encounters and The Blues Brothers. Some shots have odd hues on my new display - R2's panels tending toward purple, the Rebel flight visors looking mustard instead of orange. And I can still see those magenta blaster flashes on my new computer, while on my old one they looked tempered.

Geez, I'm having an existential crisis - was everything I thought I knew about the DeEd wrong? Was everything I thought I knew about the proper color timing of this film wrong?

This comment is only for those of you who appear to misinterpret what I've been questioning about. I know in my previous posts I've tried my best to explain my situation but I think its misleading you guys into thinking Im asking about something else. I won't go into detail this time so here it goes. How do I burn (burn meaning popping a blank DVD into my computer and pressing burn) Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition to DVD with the additional audio tracks?

OK, you guys can probably ignore those images I posted. I checked another computer, a Mac, and the bottom ones look completely wrong there too. But the top ones look CLOSER to what I see on my old laptop, albeit not dim, desaturated and yellowish.

I'm thinking it's my new computer's display that needs to be adjusted somehow - even if my old display was wrong, I just can't believe that some of the odd colors I'm seeing on the new one are what Harmy intended. And the problem is that I can't show you because the images won't look the way they do on my display.

But on the same note, due to the white-balance issue, I also know that my old display must be wrong as well...

I don't see any profiles.

I dunno, I may just have been so used to the way my old computer looked. On the computer in general, the colors look great, the white levels look right, etc. It's just the DeEd which bothers me.

Perhaps it will always look this way on this monitor. Perhaps I'm looking at it the way it's meant to look. I just can't tell.

To Harmy and anyone else: In this image, does 3PO tend toward yellow instead of golden, and the panel around R2's bubble look kind of purple?

Can anyone see some very saturated lavender areas in the fire and reflections here?

Again, do R2's panels seem almost purple-tinged?

Does Leia look yellowish here? What about the reflections off of Tarkin and Motti's hair?

Does everyone seem a little yellowish here? In the IB screening screenshot, it looks golden, but to me this looks more yellow/ochre. Especially Luke's hair.

Does Red Leader look kind of yellowish? Does his visor almost look yellow-green, and his shirt have a yellowish tinge to it?

Does anything seem off about 3PO, or about Luke and Han's skin tones? Do they again seem too yellowish? Do the lighter parts Chewie's fur seem a little yellow as well? Do R2's panels or Han's pants almost seem to have a little purple in them?

Once again, I'm not even sure if what I'm seeing is wrong, or if I was just misled by the way things looked on my old computer. Do the colors look odd to anyone else? Does anybody see what I'm seeing?

Good News Harmy! hairy_hen is finished with the revised lossless 5.1 mix! Enjoy! http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-1977-70mm-sound-mix-recreation-stereo-and-51-versions-now-available/post/614321/#TopicPost614321