Yeah. My dad bought an HDTV and he still couldn't give a rats ass whether he's watching Blu-Ray or a 700MB DVD rip.

My dad enjoys watching VHS tapes on his HDTV.  Not retail VHS tapes, VHS recordings of OTA broadcasts from a few decades ago.  It's possible he's also got them stretched to fit the screen, but I can't look.

negative1 said:

i love music.. but i could care less if it's a SACD or DVD-audio, which

are dead.. mp3's at 256k or 320k ARE GOOD ENOUGH.. so are CD's.

DVD's ARE GOOD ENOUGH for most people.

and Windows? what does that have to do with anything?

that's ALL I WILL EVER USE. no need for macs/linux, etc..

NO THANKS!

 

the market HAS SPOKEN, too bad for you!

 

later

-1

 I am actually really disappointed that DVD-audio didn't catch on.  CD is not a good format- it cuts off too many frequencies that a lot of people actually CAN hear- maybe not by themselves, but you can certainly tell the difference when they are missing.

That's why new LPs on the proper equipment still sound better than their CD counterparts.

Okay, okay, knock it off already.  Vinyl LPs are mastered entirely differently from CDs, so the fact that they sound significantly different (better in some opinions including my own) should surprise nobody.  You can also claim that the audible difference is due to all sorts of other things, sampling rate, digital vs. analog, etc, but really the different mastering is more than adequate to explain everything you hear.  It's also more than enough to explain the different sound of SACD and DVD-A, since they were also (sometimes) mastered differently than CDs.

Dammit, now I've stepped in it too, now, haven't I?

Harmy said:

Oh, yeah, there will definitely not be another MKV. Now that I think about it, I'd consider doing the v2.1 AVCHD if there's demand (it only took like 10 hours to render and an hour to upload, so it would be no biggie).

 Yes please do a v2.1 AVCHD,thank you

pittrek said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I too believe that the AVCHD is the most important release, because it is by far the HD format that most people can handle.   

That's funny. I know NOBODY who uses (or even KNOWS) the AVCHD format :-) 

 

Sorry for the offtopic :-(

So people who don't, er, *acquire* films on a regular basis aren't going to know anything about these formats at all. They'll know what a DVD is, and they'll know a BluRay is. MKV? They probably don't even know that they can stream video from their computers; most people simply are not tech-savvy.

They're not going to be the ones downloading Harmy's film...they're going to be the ones who are given copies by friends. That's why the AVCHD is so important: BDs and BD burners are still not as cheap as DVD burners and media. (And yes DVD+R DLs are still significantly more expensive than normal DVD+Rs_) The AVCHD is an excellent value proposition in that regard.

One thing I have to say is that the DVD5 that's been released is not nearly as bad in motion in real-world situations than it looks on, say, a solid 23" 1080p monitor at close range, or in stills. But the 448kbps track, even fixed, sounds, to me, significantly worse than the 640kbps one, which surprised me a bit. I actually got scared that I released the wrong DVD to the spleen (even though it was labelled h_h 5.1 fixed on a.b.sw) so I went back and listened to the fixed AC3 that hairy released yesterday or the day before to make sure, and lo and behold, the DVD matched the released track. It's really a shame about the limitations of the DVD format, because the lossiness of AC3 at less than max bitrates per channel is really on display here

Trooperman said:

 I am actually really disappointed that DVD-audio didn't catch on.  CD is not a good format- it cuts off too many frequencies that a lot of people actually CAN hear

Very strong, contrarian pushback from xiph.org:

http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

Also makes the same point as CatBus about different masters.

Harmy said:

 I was always considering maybe doing some fixes for the BD, as I consider it the ultimate version, but it wasn't until a few days ago when somebody PMed me something they noticed that made decide for sure. I will PM you the changes I already know I'll be doing (three or four so far) but if someone notices anything else, there may be more, so it probably would make sense to wait. I'm sorry about this. I know it really complicates things for everyone but I'm just a perfectionist. I just really wish I'd started with the AVCHD and not make people download these huge files only to make them redownload them later.

  Can you please PM me the changes too.thank you.

Infinity said:

I do hope you consider a 2.1 of the AVCHD, but if not it will just force me to buy a blu-ray burner.

Is it not possible to create an AVCHD from a BluRay video?

pittrek said:

DVDs ARE good enough for people with SD TV sets. But soon as they buy an HDTV, they will upgrade their movie collection with HD sources. I know it - I have bought my first HDTV only last year and I was shocked when I noticed how BAD the DVDs look on it, even when they looked AMAZING on my old CRT TV.

I've seen some DVDs that look great, and some that do not. Same goes for Blus.

As far as good DVD vs. average Blu, I'd have to sit closer and wear my glasses to be able to see the difference. Or see them projected. Tron and The Princess Bride on Blu looked great when we saw them at a theatre on the big screen, but there were others that I thought were DVDs until I noticed the text in the credits didn't have noticable compression artifacts.

In the meantime, over at the spleen, I've released an MKV that has h_h's fixed 640kbps audio and the properly synced German and Spanish dubs @ 384kbps.

bilditup1 said:

In the meantime, over at the spleen, I've released an MKV that has h_h's fixed 640kbps audio and the properly synced German and Spanish dubs @ 384kbps.

 

Damn it, I won't be home for like 16 hours.  Thank you sir for this!

This'll tie me over until Harmy can complete his uber BD release.

pittrek said:

I can't understand why people STILL use DVDs.

Get off my lawn.

pittrek said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I too believe that the AVCHD is the most important release, because it is by far the HD format that most people can handle.  

That's funny. I know NOBODY who uses (or even KNOWS) the AVCHD format :-) Honestly, EVERYBODY who watches HD movies watches them in mkv format, or from BluRays - that includes my colleagues, friends, "collectors of unreleased videos", people on various  forums ... People here at originaltrilogy.com are the only individuals which I know that use the AVCHD format :-)

Apparently you've never been to FE.org.

No problem. I actually feel guilty for not nuking a few days ago, even though I didn't get the new audios till yesterday. I pm'd walkingdork just now but decided not to wait for his response.

Nothing should be corrupted rox. Everything is fine, nothing is ruined ;)