Laserschwert said:

What exactly will be the 2.1 changes? Would it make sense to wait for it before working on the German version?

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-REMASTERED-is-now-officially-released/post/595036/#TopicPost595036

Laserschwert, I was always considering maybe doing some fixes for the BD, as I consider it the ultimate version, but it wasn't until a few days ago when somebody PMed me something they noticed that made decide for sure. I will PM you the changes I already know I'll be doing (three or four so far) but if someone notices anything else, there may be more, so it probably would make sense to wait. I'm sorry about this. I know it really complicates things for everyone but I'm just a perfectionist. I just really wish I'd started with the AVCHD and not make people download these huge files only to make them redownload them later.

I too would like to see a 2.1 AVCHD (no BD burner here either).

I've got the newest DVD5 and it does look great with the setup I have. If that's the end, then I'm OK with that. But, if a new AVCHD gets released, I'd go for it.

Thanks, Harmy.

rchdggr said:

Ummm, I've had the AVCHD and the DVD5 torrents downloading for many many hours (dvd5 for days actually) and both are still stuck at 0,0%.. What am I doing wrong? The MKV started downloading right away with no problems.

For the DVD5, could be you're trying to download the nuked torrent, which won't work. Go back to the spleen and get the new one.

Dunno about AVCHD; there's only ever been one torrent for that one.

I too believe that the AVCHD is the most important release, because it is by far the HD format that most people can handle.  To appreciate Harmy's accomplishment you need HD, which means you need a blu-ray player.  And since most computers these days can burn DL disks, just about anyone who watches movies in HD can utilize the AVCHD to produce something better than the official SW BD.

In other words, the AVCHD has the best chance of going "viral", ending this destructive conflict, and bringing order to the galaxy.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I too believe that the AVCHD is the most important release, because it is by far the HD format that most people can handle.  To appreciate Harmy's accomplishment you need HD, which means you need a blu-ray player.  And since most computers these days can burn DL disks, just about anyone who watches movies in HD can utilize the AVCHD to produce something better than the official SW BD.

In other words, the AVCHD has the best chance of going "viral", ending this destructive conflict, and bringing order to the galaxy.

that's a good point.

we haven't thought of making one for our version.

but it will definitely be considered..

then again, if you really want to experience ours in it's

full 1080p glory, maybe you WOULD want to limit it

to only the mkv, and bluray discs (although I CAN'T STAND

BLURAY players/discs etc.. i'm more of HD-DVD person myself)

ha ha

later

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Zottig said:

 

VHS, Microsoft Windows, MP3, there are far too many instances of the masses willing to sacrifice on quality in exchange for trivial and fleeting factors like cost, ease of adoption, convenience, etc... all of which quickly end up being meaningless and then you are just left with the compromises.

The reason audio has effectively topped out at CD quality is because the unwashed masses preferred convenience of MP3 to quality of DVD audio or SACD which could have brought things closer to the limits of human hearing but no "the market has spoken" and mp3 was deemed "good enough."

Ben

 

how about practicality, price and being realistic (storage)?

i love music.. but i could care less if it's a SACD or DVD-audio, which

are dead.. mp3's at 256k or 320k ARE GOOD ENOUGH.. so are CD's.

DVD's ARE GOOD ENOUGH for most people.

and Windows? what does that have to do with anything?

that's ALL I WILL EVER USE. no need for macs/linux, etc..

NO THANKS!

the market HAS SPOKEN, too bad for you!

later

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Zottig said:

And you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

As I said, they are trivial and fleeting issues, only quality (or lack thereof endures.)  Storage is laughably cheap and only to get more so.  Once 640x480 GIFs were considered high quality.

 

Ben

 

 

they may be cheap to you, but not everybody.

who's preventing you from buying bigger sd cards, or hard drives,

or getting music in FLAC or uncompressed? last time i checked

there's quite a few places that sell music in some of those formats.

my camera phone goes up to 640x480, which IS GOOD enough

quality for me.. maybe you need more than that?

later

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Zottig said:

As it is it's inconceivable Lucas went cheap and only scanned such an important film at only 2k just because two of his precious prequels were limited to 1080p. 

 

Oh, it's even worse than that. The 1997 YCM Labs version was at 2K, back when the scanning tech was in its infancy. But the new 2004 master was made at just 1080p. See zombie's excellent article:

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/savingstarwars.html

Anyway - I broadly sympathize but think that if the price higher quality is a much smaller audience, then Harmy's project has not fulfilled its mission, and concur with Puggo about the importance of the AVCHD release. Can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good; the AVCHD version is not akin to the 128kbps bladeenc mp3s of yesteryear, and not even to the much better quality v0 lame mp3s of today...

I heard there's a Star Wars discussion around here.  Anyone know where I can find it?

Zottig said:

My thought has always been screw all other concerns and go for quality, this is about an optimal version of Star Wars, right?

I actually agree with you, except that I think it is important to have BOTH the blu ray and the AVCHD.  Yes indeed, the highest quality must be preserved. But for this to have an impact, it must also be accessible.  Most folks, if they have to burn their own blu ray to see it, just won't.  They'll say "screw it, the official release is good enough".  Most people don't care enough to make even the most minimal upgrade, because they don't understand the issues.  But burning an AVCHD on a DL is so easy and for most people doesn't require any purchase.  A lot of people could potentially do it, on a lark or out of curiosity... people outside of these boards, in the real world, who don't know they care until they see what they've been missing.

And yes, I too find the migration from CD to mp3 sad.