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russs15 said:
If what I have been told is correct, these releases by Harmy are NTSC GOUT synced. The official US NTSC GOUT release has a French soundtrack and Project Threepio have the French subtitles.
It is a relatively easy task to add those to any GOUT synced video.....
No, they are 23.976 fps.
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I am ready for the trials!The NTSC-GOUTs run at 29.97fps and at 23.976 after IVTCing them... the running time is identical in both cases though ;)
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Laserschwert said:
The NTSC-GOUTs run at 29.97fps and at 23.976 after IVTCing them... the running time is identical in both cases though ;)
Thanks, I didn't know that.
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A légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal.Also, Harmy, I don't know if you're planning on including subs in the initial release or if that's more for the Blu-Ray, but I'm pretty much done with 5 more languages for my project--but only for Star Wars. I don't plan on actually releasing them until I finish all 3 movies, but I would make an exception for you.
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Han D. SoloThat would be great :-) I'm not going to bust my hump too much about having complete audio and subtitle tracks in the MKV and AVCHD releases, since it's so easy for people to mux in their preferred tracks if they're not there but I'd really like to have everything complete for the BD, since I want to have menus and stuff.
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A légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal.OK I'll keep working on it and will release it either when it's done or when you ask.
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Han D. SoloCool, thanks :-)
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I am ready for the trials!The workprint looks great! Still, I've noticed a few things:

During the crawl and the pan down you've got a wonderful gate-weave effect going on, but it stops after the pan down, so that the stars, the planet and the moon now are rock solid, which is slightly distracting. Would it be possible to add a slight movement to the background, or - if that's not possible due to the layers - the whole image? I bet it wouldn't really matter if the ships flying by are moving a bit as well...

In the shot of Luke igniting and swinging the lightsaber for the first time, the background (wall) is flickering.

In this shot the dome on the R2 unit (and the sunlit parts of the stormtrooper armors) is really blown out, and although I know that it looks like that on the GOUT as well, the JSC version (and the Blu-ray as well) definitely shows that there was more detail in those highlights before:

Have you thought about darkening your whites just a tiny bit and overlaying the JSC highlight onto those areas, to get the missing detail back in there? If I had both versions of the shot here, I'd really love to try that...
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Han D. SoloLaserschwert said:
The workprint looks great! Still, I've noticed a few things:
During the crawl and the pan down you've got a wonderful gate-weave effect going on, but it stops after the pan down, so that the stars, the planet and the moon now are rock solid, which is slightly distracting. Would it be possible to add a slight movement to the background, or - if that's not possible due to the layers - the whole image? I bet it wouldn't really matter if the ships flying by are moving a bit as well...
That's actually one of the things on my list.
In the shot of Luke igniting and swinging the lightsaber for the first time, the background (wall) is flickering.
Yeah, there's more of that going on. I think it's already in the source but it gets more visible due to the brightening I did.
In this shot the dome on the R2 unit (and the sunlit parts of the stormtrooper armors) is really blown out, and although I know that it looks like that on the GOUT as well, the JSC version (and the Blu-ray as well) definitely shows that there was more detail in those highlights before:
Have you thought about darkening your whites just a tiny bit and overlaying the JSC highlight onto those areas, to get the missing detail back in there? If I had both versions of the shot here, I'd really love to try that...
Well, if you want, I'll be happy to upload the lossless version of the shot for you (it's something like 600MB) and you can give it a shot.
Pennsylvania Jones said:
"Stick and Stones will break my bones but the Blu-Rays will never Harmy."
Lucas: I am altering the film. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Fans: This film is getting worse all the time!
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I got the links to the final workprint (thanks harmy!) but I'm having trouble with a few of the parts. JDownloader can't seem to connect to parts 7, 10 and 12. It keeps saying "Hoster Problem?" and if I try to download the parts directly, I get 502 Gateway errors. Did anyone else have problems downloading any parts?
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I am ready for the trials!Harmy said:
Well, if you want, I'll be happy to upload the lossless version of the shot for you (it's something like 600MB) and you can give it a shot.
Do you have both versions (your finished one and the JSC-shot)? Because without the JSC one I can't really fix anything ;)
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Han D. SoloOh, I thought you had the JSC because you posted the screenshot. I don't have it unfortunately. Only got that one shot of the speeder flyby from msycamore.
Pennsylvania Jones said:
"Stick and Stones will break my bones but the Blu-Rays will never Harmy."
Lucas: I am altering the film. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Fans: This film is getting worse all the time!
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I am ready for the trials!Nah, that image was taken from THIS thread. But I've PMed msycamore about it - maybe he can upload the whole JSC shot.
Based on a quick test with the still it's rather easy:

But it might look horrible in motion, who knows...
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adimifus said:
I got the links to the final workprint (thanks harmy!) but I'm having trouble with a few of the parts. JDownloader can't seem to connect to parts 7, 10 and 12. It keeps saying "Hoster Problem?" and if I try to download the parts directly, I get 502 Gateway errors. Did anyone else have problems downloading any parts?
I'm getting the exact same thing right now on those three files. Not sure why.
*edit - working now.
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Cobra Kai said:
adimifus said:
I got the links to the final workprint (thanks harmy!) but I'm having trouble with a few of the parts. JDownloader can't seem to connect to parts 7, 10 and 12. It keeps saying "Hoster Problem?" and if I try to download the parts directly, I get 502 Gateway errors. Did anyone else have problems downloading any parts?
I'm getting the exact same thing right now on those three files. Not sure why.
*edit - working now.
Yeah they're working for me now too.
EDIT: Turns out all the parts that did download before were corrupt (??) but the parts that didn't work before are fine. I dunno what's up with my connection, but trying again now... lol
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Han D. SoloLaserschwert said:
Nah, that image was taken from THIS thread. But I've PMed msycamore about it - maybe he can upload the whole JSC shot.
Based on a quick test with the still it's rather easy:
But it might look horrible in motion, who knows...
Yeah, I was gonna say, this would be totally easy in photoshop but in motion, it might be really hard - gate weave is the worst enemy when doing these.
Anyway, here's the shot in uncompressed AVI: http://uloz.to/xc63pRd/ronto-butt-4-1-avi
Pennsylvania Jones said:
"Stick and Stones will break my bones but the Blu-Rays will never Harmy."
Lucas: I am altering the film. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Fans: This film is getting worse all the time!
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I am ready for the trials!Thanks... I'll just see what I can do once msycamore has uploaded his JSC version of that shot.
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A légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal.Harmy said:
Yeah, there's more of that going on. I think it's already in the source but it gets more visible due to the brightening I did.
Is it possible the HDTV capture doesn't have this issue? i.e. maybe it's a problem with the Blu-ray encode, rather than the HD source? I sure don't remember seeing any sign of this in v1.
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I am ready for the trials!CatBus said:
Harmy said:
Yeah, there's more of that going on. I think it's already in the source but it gets more visible due to the brightening I did.
Is it possible the HDTV capture doesn't have this issue? i.e. maybe it's a problem with the Blu-ray encode, rather than the HD source? I sure don't remember seeing any sign of this in v1.
You're right, I've just checked 1.0, and the flickering isn't there.
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Han D. SoloActually, the shot mentioned there (Luke first igniting the sabre) is actually sourced from the HDTV broadcast in v2.0 because I did it before I got the BD.
Pennsylvania Jones said:
"Stick and Stones will break my bones but the Blu-Rays will never Harmy."
Lucas: I am altering the film. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Fans: This film is getting worse all the time!
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I am ready for the trials!In that case I'll add this shot to your to-do list ;-)
Is the color timing of the Blu-ray identical to the HDTV version? In that case switching footage shouldn't be that much of a problem.
Also, I've found another thing: The matte painting with the speeder flying into Mos Eisley has no gate weave either.
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Han D. SoloLaserschwert said:
In that case I'll add this shot to your to-do list ;-)
No way in hell :-) Also, I don't really see that much of a flicker in that shot, it seems more like the compression having a hard time dealing with the grain.
Is the color timing of the Blu-ray identical to the HDTV version? In that case switching footage shouldn't be that much of a problem.
More or less, yeah but I can't find the original project file for the shot.
Also, I've found another thing: The matte painting with the speeder flying into Mos Eisley has no gate weave either.
I'll see about it.
Pennsylvania Jones said:
"Stick and Stones will break my bones but the Blu-Rays will never Harmy."
Lucas: I am altering the film. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Fans: This film is getting worse all the time!
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A légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal.Harmy said:
Laserschwert said:
In that case I'll add this shot to your to-do list ;-)
No way in hell :-) Also, I don't really see that much of a flicker in that shot, it seems more like the compression having a hard time dealing with the grain.
Works for me, maybe less compression will take care of it.
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I am ready for the trials!Yeah, in that case I assume it's just the strong compression on the workprint causing it.
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Han D. SoloYou can check it out in WP3R2, it's less compressed there.
Pennsylvania Jones said:
"Stick and Stones will break my bones but the Blu-Rays will never Harmy."
Lucas: I am altering the film. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Fans: This film is getting worse all the time!