So, I was thinking; there are many small colour anomalies in the original colour timing, like one shot having a blue cast and the next having a purple one and such. It is usually minor and not too distracting, so most of the time I kept true to them but I did make one rather major exception: the two shots from this angle:

The top is how it appears in the WP, the bottom is almost exactly how it appears on the I.B. print; all the other shots in the print look pretty much the way they look in the WP, so these two stand out quite a bit. What do you guys think, should I make them look like this?

That's the thing though, those were mistakes that someone made back then and millions of people saw the film with those mistakes. And again, garbage mattes always seem to come up in these kinds of discussions and I always have to repeat that I only try to remove them because in optimal projection conditions, those wouldn't have been visible, and if I knew they were always visible, I'd probably be putting garbage mattes back where they were removed in the SE, just like matte lines or colourless lightsabres.

I'd normally say go with the IB print, but since the colors are so drastically off, I'm suspicious.

In the absence of anything backing up the IB source, I'd prefer the top one.

The weird thing is that there are two different shots from this angle and they are both timed like this, so it almost seems intentional. But yeah, it isn't even remotely like that in any other source I've seen, so I guess I could leave it as it is with fairly clear conscience.

Jan said:

Do we have any idea how it looks in the LPP print negative1 uses for his project?

we're getting there.. but not yet.

actually, i do have this from the red test reel.

so we can't really trust that.

later

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I would say to throw out distracting anomalies like that and make the shots fairly consistent.  Doing so would not compromise the integrity of the original and would make for a better viewing experience as the viewer would not be taken out of the film.  I think we all are going to be very aware of color issues, much more than viewers were in 1977, so my vote is for the top image.

Also, I believe this is the path you took in the Tantive IV scene when one of the shots was considerably greener than the other shots?

stretch009 said:

TV's Frink said:

re encoding, I've had good results with hcenc.

I don't know that much about the topic but I'm pretty sure he'd rather use the far superior x264 over hcenc's mpeg2 encoder.

Edit:  If you were talking about the DVD5 than ,yes, I totally agree.

 

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hairy_hen said:

The top shot looks better, but if the bottom one really represents what it looked like on the Technicolor print, then that's where my vote would have to be, for the sake of accuracy to the original appearance.

It does, however, raise the question of whether the Technicolor version was timed exactly the same way as the regular prints were.  Does Mike Verta have any particular insights about this?

Very good point.

Please leave the workprint as is..(top one)..is my vote.

I prefer the top version, but would be totally fine with the bottom because I don't think it's really that bad.  I am also somewhat suspicious when the IB print is the only outlier.