Hmm... well, I'm no authority on this (I just like to meddle :P), but Harmy didn't really have any proper theatrical references when he made version 1.0, did he? Subsequent discussions have shown that Star Wars did have some odd colour "issues" from the very beginning.

I don't think that shot of R2 looks wrong per se; if you look at this photo from the Senator screening, the greenish tint is definitely there.

I do know that a photo of a theater screen isn't an ideal reference, but if that photo is at least close to how it's supposed to look, I'd say Harmy knows what he's doing.

Heh, sorry about that. At least I'm not alone in thinking that it's time to just let Harmy call the shots himself. Again, those looking for a saturated GOUT may wind up being quite disappointed.

I'm personally looking forward to watching a film I have never seen.

(Longtime lurker here. Love your work, Harmy.)

If you're taking requests, I'd love a set of the front cover art that's 666 by 1000 pixels for importing into iTunes (like a movie poster). Blu-Ray boxes are more square and the lettering doesn't fit at the aspect ratio iTunes likes. iTunes will take any shape art but it's neat to have everything looking uniform.

If anyone's curious, I've used Handbrake to convert the files using the Apple TV preset but with the resolution increased to 720p. The movies look great on the iPad and iPhone 4, too. You can import all of the soundtracks or just pick the first one depending on how small you want the files to be. I also downloaded .srt subtitle files and added those using Handbrake.

Hey fellows. Don't get me wrong, I think Harmy is doing a wonderful job with this whole project! And I want to thank him again! I'm not the one to "bitch" about the coloring or grading, or really anything that Harmy is doing here, I'm just pointing things out that I think might be.. "off" in some way, from the way I saw it in the theater in the summer of 1977.

And indeed, if Harmy does go ahead with what he thinks is the way it really should look, and if I or others don't really like a certain thing about it, yes, we could really adjust it to "our liking" (although I have no idea how to do that) that is our prerogative.

It looks like the Senator Screening pictures, taken with whatever camera that it was taken with, has an overall greenish tint to it as well. If you look:  http://savestarwars.com/technicoloribscreening.html  you can tell by looking at the thumbnails even, that there is this overall greenish hue/tint to them, as well as a good amount of graininess of course.

I haven't got 1/20th of the skill that Harmy has to do this project (probably a LOT less even) but I certainly feel, if he wants our opinion, I am going to give it to him in the way that I remember seeing it.

Stinky-Dinkins said:

dlvh said:

Harmy's version 1.0 doesn't have this greenish tint in it, and looks much better. I am attempting to show a comparison screenshot.

 

 

The second shot's grading does definitely seem off in comparison..

I used to bug Harmy constantly about his version 1.0 being too yellow IMO but at christmas I had a change of heart about how to colour grade the original trilogy and came to a gradual acceptance that the trilogy is meant to be more yellow than i'd been previously thought.

I just had a look at how this shot looks with my most recent colour grading and it looks exactly like his version 1.0 now. Go figure.

Somebody, mverta I think it was you, showed the difference between using a modern bulb and a 70's bulb on a tech IB print. Clearly, the light source plays a part in how the colors appear.

Have the reference frames Harmy is using been created with modern bulbs, or 70's ones?

Stinky-Dinkins said:

Hay Harmy, on the BD will the DTSHDMA (I'm assuming this is the lossless codec you're using for audio) also have a lossy DTS core? I know nothing about the technical side of these things, or if that DTS core is automatically included in every DTSMA track (as it is with standard retail BD releases) but I was just wondering if it would automatically strip out the DTS lossy track from the lossless when that's selected and send it out optical if I choose to watch it with that setup. My 5.1 system and receiver isn't hooked up right now (not enough space) so I can't decode lossless at the moment, I am using a soundbar that accepts standard DTS, though.

A DTSHDMA track contains a lossy DTS core plus extensions that are added to make is lossless. So yes, the core is always there.

Harmy, have you had time to start color correcting reel 2 yet?

Thanks for the reply Harmy. I hope you get the rest of the reference pics soon.

CatBus said:

I remember paying to see something that looked suspiciously like the Despecialized Editions a few decades ago, but that guy is probably long gone by now...

Thanks CatBus, that made me laugh out loud.  :)