Ok, I just wanted to chime in here about the color-timing, even though this argument has been beat to death.

First-off, Harmy, I think you're doing an incredible job on this.  In my opinion the new color-timing is not only a huge improvement, but I am also quite confident, based on your new sources that it is very close to how people viewed this movie in 1977, which should clearly be the ultimate goal.

The one shot, though, that really bugs me is the Tantive shot that OMEN posted earlier:  http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/107151   The difference in color-tone here between these two shots is pretty jarring, and it definitely took me out of the scene. 

Personally I would fix that second shot to match up more closely with the rest of the scene.   Fixing a few glaring inconsistencies like this, IMO, would not compromise the integrity of a theatrical restoration, and each scene would still have the same look and feel as it originally did in 1977.

I hate to bring up stuff like this, as I know your position on the matter, but I just had to get it off my chest.  Again, I think you're doing an awesome job, and I think I am more excited about this project than anyone here.  (my wife thinks I'm obsessed)  I think she's right...

This definitely couldn't be caused by pal framerate, so I must assume it was always like that.

@ Cobra Kai:

I actually already tweaked this particular one, for the exact reasons you stated in your post.

Cobra Kai said:

The one shot, though, that really bugs me is the Tantive shot that OMEN posted earlier:  http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/107151   The difference in color-tone here between these two shots is pretty jarring, and it definitely took me out of the scene. 

 

I detected too a little difference in color-tone in the middle of this transition

It is less than a second but I don't know maybe it's easy to fix

Harmy If it requires a lot of your time, just forget it .... I think I'm the only one who saw it. :-p

Cobra kai I think you're not the only one obsessed with this project!! We are all nuts here!! hahah... lol

Yep, already got that one covered as well :-)

I finished watching Workprint 2.3, and I noticed 2 things:

11:25 - ATTACK OF THE JAGGIES. I know I've brought this up before, but these jaggies in the xwing still stand out to me. I really think manually rotating the xwing will avoid this issue. I'd be willing to take a shot at it myself frame by frame in Photoshop, if that would help.

12:46 - As the shot fades from the explosions to Luke in the cockpit, the screen looks gray and blocky.

15:55 - The Rebel tactical table is too blue. I think this is an SE issue.

Reel 1 of WP3 looks good. I think everything I noticed has been brought up already. Since you're the one with the references, Harmy, I'll just trust in your color choices. FYI, the only way I would get WP3R1 to play was to download the latest version of VLC Player (the old version I had worked for all the other workprints and videos).

Erikstormtrooper said:

I finished watching Workprint 2.3, and I noticed 2 things:

11:25 - ATTACK OF THE JAGGIES. I know I've brought this up before, but these jaggies in the xwing still stand out to me. I really think manually rotating the xwing will avoid this issue. I'd be willing to take a shot at it myself frame by frame in Photoshop, if that would help.

I'll try but no promises. If you want to give it a shot, who am I to refuse, go ahead, if it works, I'll gladly accept it :-) 

12:46 - As the shot fades from the explosions to Luke in the cockpit, the screen looks gray and blocky.

That's because it's from GOUT. They used an alternate take in the SE.

15:55 - The Rebel tactical table is too blue. I think this is an SE issue.

Thanks, been looking for that. I think there was maybe one more instance of that, so if anyone found it, let me know.

Reel 1 of WP3 looks good. I think everything I noticed has been brought up already. Since you're the one with the references, Harmy, I'll just trust in your color choices. FYI, the only way I would get WP3R1 to play was to download the latest version of VLC Player (the old version I had worked for all the other workprints and videos).

That's weird, I don't think I did anything differently this time.

BTW. I should be getting the IB print references for the rest of the reels soon, so this project is one step closer to completion.

Huge! At this point, I'd definitely wait for v2, it should be done in a couple of weeks and it will be tons better than v1 in practically every aspect.

Harmy said:

15:55 - The Rebel tactical table is too blue. I think this is an SE issue.

Thanks, been looking for that. I think there was maybe one more instance of that, so if anyone found it, let me know.

In WP2.3, the other instances of the table are at 11:17 and 21:57.

And a despecialization I think you missed: at 22:03, the aurebesh for Yavin appears on the Death Star screen. I know this was fixed in DEED v1.

Thank you, I have been waiting for someone to finally notice that ;-)

So, while waiting for the next batch of reference frames, I'm playing around a bit:

slynger said:

I think those shots look incredible; awesome to hear that it's nearing the completion point!!

+1 :-)

I know you said you're waiting on more reference frames Harmy, but are the Death Star's walls in that first Despecialized Edition v2.0 shot likely to stay that colour?  Just curious, as they really seem too cyan, especially compared to the GOUT and the other DeEd shots.

As for the blaster bolts, though... fan-freaking-tastic!  Did you do the same thing for all the blaster bolts in the opening Blockade Runner shootout?

corellian77 said:

I know you said you're waiting on more reference frames Harmy, but are the Death Star's walls in that first Despecialized Edition v2.0 shot likely to stay that colour?  Just curious, as they really seem too cyan, especially compared to the GOUT and the other DeEd shots.

I'll see about that depending on what the reference will show but you can't compare it to the GOUT, which is seriously desaturated.

As for the blaster bolts, though... fan-freaking-tastic!  Did you do the same thing for all the blaster bolts in the opening Blockade Runner shootout?

Oh, no, no way in hell. I believe the lasers in the Blocade Runner shootout weren't changed beyond possibly, maybe being recomposited, but these that I changed are all new CG lasers.

leo87 said:

Can't wait for this new release, it's looking good. So only Star Wars is getting a v2.0 right?

Nope, last I heard Harmy's planning for the whole set.  Although I hope he gives himself a vacation after this one.