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RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

on that latest clip i noticed that bens cloak changes from brown to almost black when he says "this place can be a little rough".  in the top left comparison clip i don't think his cloak becomes that dark.

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RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

Harmy,

I watched your SW-DeEd-1st-Workprint on my TV a few times. I had to demux your mp4 file and remux the video and the audiostream into a MKV file. I had to do that because my standalone can only play MKV files.

No reencoding was made, I just remuxed the streams.

I really like the colours in the Tantive scenes. But in a short shot the colour looks colder, just like the SE colours to me, it happens at timecode 3:46, the other scenes have the I call it warmer colours.

I also noticed at timecode 7:06 that Tatooine pans blocky over the screen while the escape capsule flies down to the planet. I wasn't sure if my player had problems in playing this thing properly but in your original posted workprint this is also a littlebit blocky. It is not very strong but it is there.

The yellow face of Tarkin has been mentioned here, but at timecode 16:48 the face of Owen looks very yellow too.

It might be reflections from c-3po's chest but honestly it looks rather like yellow skin and not like a reflection to me, what do you think?

Btw. the scene where Luke inspects his lightsaber in Bens hutt, I had to watch it again and again. The blue light looks soooo great.

I think I will watch your workprint a few times more until your final release comes out.

 

Last edited on December 15, 2011 at 1:37 AM by Oldschooljedi
wonkeychoobaca's avatar
RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

I also don't know if this is my player or if it's the video but when luke waves away the jawa who is eyeing his speeder the video changes brightness mid scene and then when luke starts to say "i don't understand how we got past those troops" it switches back in brightness.

EDIT: never mind i think this brightness switching is my player.  I noticed it in quicktime but not windows media player.  but bens cloak still looks a tad too dark as stated in my previous post

Last edited on December 15, 2011 at 2:01 AM by wonkeychoobaca

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RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

Where's my damn medal?

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RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

Yeah, I said it was a preliminary render. And that Ben's cloak thing's because all the other shots of Ben are from You_Too's render of the BD, so the blacks are a lot less crushed and that darker shot was from the HDTV. I already fixed that, along with some errors plaguing the Ronto butt shot. But I'll keep those fixed shots for the next WP.

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Here's the same pic from the new render:

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sorry about the cards.  Some were in plastic.  I was really hoping they would help.

looking for HDTV of the  Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.  Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

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RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

Oh, that's alright, I never really expected them to be of much use, I was mainly just curious, which is one of the reasons I didn't want you to go to the trouble of mailing them to me.

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RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

Harmy, I pulled out my old widescreen cards, and they look much better than the scans troy sent you. Would you like to see them?

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Well, the 93 LD master was transferred directly from 1st generation positive film, so this could all be marketing jibber-jabber where in fact the pictures could well have been taken from the same digital LD master files that the GOUT comes from.

@Eric: Sure, I'd like to see some other scans. Although again, mostly just out of curiosity.

Last edited on December 16, 2011 at 4:33 AM by Harmy

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Harmy said:

Well, the 93 LD master was transferred directly from 1st generation positive film, so this could all be marketing jibber-jabber where in fact the pictures could well have been taken from the same digital LD master files that the GOUT comes from.

@Eric: Sure, I'd like to see some other scans. Although again, mostly just out of curiosity.

i'm posting all my scans in another thread

for those interested. [done]

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Topps-Widevision-Cards-for-Star-Wars/topic/13627/

later

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Last edited on December 16, 2011 at 7:27 AM by negative1

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RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

Harmy, at around 1:53:50 in ROTJ, as Han Solo is running away from the bunker, he becomes ghosted for a fraction of a second.

Also, MySpleen seems to only have actual disk versions, to be burned and played on standalones. Is there any chance you could release plain MP4 or MKV versions, without the compatibility restrictions posed by cimpliance to the AVCHD standard and playable as-is on any computer?

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RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

AVCHD is playable as is on any computer.

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Byakko said:

Harmy, at around 1:53:50 in ROTJ, as Han Solo is running away from the bunker, he becomes ghosted for a fraction of a second.

Also, MySpleen seems to only have actual disk versions, to be burned and played on standalones. Is there any chance you could release plain MP4 or MKV versions, without the compatibility restrictions posed by cimpliance to the AVCHD standard and playable as-is on any computer?

Or just get tsMuxerGUI and create your own ts file which is a MKV. This takes about 10 minutes to create the the container. 

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RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

Hi,

First off I would like to say thanks for these new versions you have released to the public. I have only dl  SW and ESB thus far but its great to see them without the added "special features" of  George Lucas. 

I have read much of those here critiquing the V1 versions from a technical pow even though I know they too greatly appreciate the work that has been done to get the original trilogy back to the way they were released. I too have noticed issues with yellowing in seens where surfaces I would think were white as well as some over exposure here and there. I can live with all that because its by the fans who are restoring them due to GL not cooperating with those of us who helped them succeed by going to the theatres and buying the tickeys.

I just have one question to those die hards out there. The SW the scene where Luck and Ben get stopped by the Stormtroopers in Mos Eisley. Two droids, white and yellow, pass in front of the camera. Now the White droid kinda feels right but the yellow feels added as it takes up more of the screen and REALLY breaks the viewers focus on the main characters. Is the yellow an addition or is it that I have not seen the original for so long in its purity that I have just forgotten it happened?

Just an observation if someone can put it to rest for me.

Thanks again for these versions. I just wish someone could sneek out of the Library of Congress archives the prints there and transfer them to digital format. With some fixing of course. :)  

Merry Christmas people!

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PC-Max said:

I just have one question to those die hards out there. The SW the scene where Luck and Ben get stopped by the Stormtroopers in Mos Eisley. Two droids, white and yellow, pass in front of the camera. Now the White droid kinda feels right but the yellow feels added as it takes up more of the screen and REALLY breaks the viewers focus on the main characters. Is the yellow an addition or is it that I have not seen the original for so long in its purity that I have just forgotten it happened?

Merry Christmas people!

 

Yep, that yellow droid has always been there.

Last edited on December 19, 2011 at 2:50 AM by Cobra Kai

 

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RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

Harmy said:

AVCHD is playable as is on any computer.

Really ? In which software ? Because I always open the m2ts file in a player directly

Harmy's avatar
RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

Well, that's what I meant. Although I'm pretty sure the newest MPC can open it as a disc. And the newest Power DVD should be able to play it as disc too.

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RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

Cobra Kai said:

PC-Max said:

I just have one question to those die hards out there. The SW the scene where Luck and Ben get stopped by the Stormtroopers in Mos Eisley. Two droids, white and yellow, pass in front of the camera. Now the White droid kinda feels right but the yellow feels added as it takes up more of the screen and REALLY breaks the viewers focus on the main characters. Is the yellow an addition or is it that I have not seen the original for so long in its purity that I have just forgotten it happened?

Merry Christmas people!

 

Yep, that yellow droid has always been there.

I've always found that yellow droid distracting too, but it's much better than a big Ronto covering the whole screen! :)

PC-Max's avatar
RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

Thanks for the responses. This is why creators/directors should leave well enough alone. Gets to the point one cannot tell the whats original or not anymore. Too many versions to sift through. 

Thanks again for the response and thanks again for these current versions.

Cheers!

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RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

Harmy said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAXWzpCo06w

It of course looks like ass on youtube, so here is an HQ clip:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RM47HYR9

Harmy, no offense, but this preview is better than the 1st workprint. I mean, the Lucasfilm Ltd logo.

Anyway, you are getting better every day.

Last edited on December 20, 2011 at 11:24 PM by bttfbrasilfan
Harmy's avatar
RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

Really? In your opinion, this:

looks better than this?

 

Well, then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree ;-)

They're both 35mm scans btw, so they're undoubtedly legitimate. Though the first one may actually be from ESB.

 

Last edited on December 20, 2011 at 11:53 PM by Harmy

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RE: Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD !!!AVCHD DVD9 and NTSC DVD5 AVAILABLE - see 1st post!!!

BTW Harmy (et al.) this probably goes in the "obvious" category, but a lot of times when it comes to 35mm scans where single frames of a title are posted, the particular frame can make a big difference in the perceived quality.  These two LFL's are from the same source, it's just that the bottom one is two frames later than the top one.  But it's an important two frames: the fade-out had just begun...

 

 

_Mike

 

I just notice sometimes we judge the film/era/quality of the graphics from things which are actually "moving-targets." 

Apologies for the full-res crop, but it makes it much easier to see.

Last edited on December 21, 2011 at 1:02 AM by mverta

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