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reave's avatar
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Awesome. That doesn't look bad at all for a 30 year old tape. Noticed any unique pan/scan?

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Now that we have the proof a few posts back, how much of the often quoted paragraph from the former davisdvd.com web page about the original 1982 VHS/Beta release has been "mythbusted"??

"What You Didn't Know:  Despite popular belief, this was not the only transfer made of Star Wars. At some point, a second fullscreen video transfer was created from a 16mm flat print source. Since an anamorphic (2.35:1) 35mm print had been reduced down to a flat (1.33:1) 16mm print, this 16mm source featured different pan & scan decisions made during the print reduction. One main difference in this transfer was that Luke's macrobinocular POV shot of the Banthas was squeezed to actually show the Tusken Raider walking to the side of the frame. This video transfer was only shown on HBO and was never offered for sale or rent."

Yes, there are two different transfers (or at least different versions of shots from basically the same transfer??) most noted by the "squeezed" macrobinocular shot. However, as this shot was in the 1982 NTSC LD and all pre-THX PAL VHS pan and scan releases, the last line quoted is incorrect. I cannot comment on the 16mm flat print source statement.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070923102254/http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/starwars/ep4.htm

(Once I get back my ITV broadcast DVD, I will post a picture of a third macrobinocular shot for info......)


Last edited on October 20, 2011 at 6:58 PM by russs15

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TServo2049 said:

Here's another fullscreen transfer of the flyover shot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBpTwiI0lMc

That seen is squeezed. Look at that moon .

It may look right stretched on a 16:9 TV.

reave's avatar
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That's no moon... 

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TKF821 said:

Anchorhead said:

The guy replied and sent several high-res scans. There's no doubt someone could come up with a great HBO DVD cover using the pages he scanned.

He is very nice and also very interested in the preservation work.  He also has a 16mm copy of Star Wars that he sometimes shows in private screenings.  If we have any members in France, maybe you can meet him in person and go to one.  I gave him a link to our site, so maybe he'll join and give us a look.  He sounds like a wealth of info and sympathetic to our cause.

Here are the files he sent;

http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l634/Anchorhead/HBO%20preservation/

Photobucket downsized them a touch, but they're still very good.  If you need the originals, PM me with an email address that accepts large attachments.

 

Hi everybody !

I am the "guy" and I thank you to welcome me among the members of your circle.

As much as my schedule allows it, I will try to take part to your discussions which are of great interest for me. As an early fan of the original trilogy (I was born in 1972), I am still hoping Lucas will change his mind about it...

I should be back soon around here !

Thank you for your enthusiasm :-)

Bob (Baudime)

P.S. : I own super-8 copies of the three original Star Wars movies (not 16mm). They are in English, widescreen, and stereo : no special editions, no additional FX or scenes. Just the original as we watched them back in the 70s and 80s.

 

 

 

 

 

Welcome to the forum.  I hope your stay is enjoyable and enlightening.  There is plenty to learn and appreciate about a place like this....even during disagreements.  I, personally, look forward to any additional knowledge and experience you bring with you.

Cheers!!!! 

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The Aluminum Falcon's avatar
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TKF821 said:

I am the "guy" and I thank you to welcome me among the members of your circle.

Sorry about being late on the game, but welcome TKF821! It's great to have another contributor.

I own super-8 copies of the three original Star Wars movies (not 16mm). They are in English, widescreen, and stereo : no special editions, no additional FX or scenes. Just the original as we watched them back in the 70s and 80s.

That sounds utterly fantastic! Do you have some way to transfer those, especially the original Derann of Star Wars? A member named Puggo has already transferred a 16mm of Star Wars, but your super-8 should have less fading. Apologies for my nosiness, but how are the colors on ESB and ROTJ?

reave said:

Awesome. That doesn't look bad at all for a 30 year old tape. 

Agreed. The shots look pretty nice SilverWook. This is turning out to be a cool preservation.

bkev's avatar
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^I was hoping somebody would suggest that but I didn't want to be the one to!  Please take this idea into consideration.

reave's avatar
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Got the captures from Silverwook. I'll work on piecing together a composite when I get some time. 

Still looking for the original HBO intro to SW (including the HBO flying letters)

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frank678's avatar
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Interested to hear about this and how it looks via Betamax

reave's avatar
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I've pretty much finished building my new editing rig, so I should be able to get this project going fairly soon. I don't guess anyone has run across a nice copy of the original HBO/SW intro

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reave's avatar
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I guess I should just do that. Don't want the guy to change his mind and lose the one chance I have to get it. I've spent more money on stupider things I guess. 

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reave's avatar
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I've cleared a couple projects and I'm moving forward with this now. I'm just going to use the youtube 480p of this and clean it up. 

Unless someone comes up with another copy or feels like paying that youtube user "for his time" this will have to do for now. 

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reave's avatar
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$15. It's a small amount, but I just can't do it because I'm kinda broke and on principle. 

I also wonder how good of a copy the guy could make. I have no idea what his source is like or his ripping skills. 

I think I can make this look passable, and I kind of want it have a little "age" to it anyway. 

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reave's avatar
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Some quick clean up work done by Throwgncpr:

 

 

Last edited on March 25, 2012 at 2:25 PM by reave

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reave's avatar
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No, just a test to see what it would look like.

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reave said:

No, just a test to see what it would look like.

the pictures are too big and wide

to see the cleaned up part.

 

i guess i could just download the pictures.

 

later

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