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dark_jedi's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

g-force, I am not rushing you in any way, shape or form, but do you have any idea at all when we might see the ROTJ script being final, whether it be a few days, a month, whatever?

Thanks man just want to keep these together, but if it is going to be a pretty long time yet then I can slow down a bit on finishing these 2.

Some people!

g-force's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

 

 

dark_jedi said:

g-force, I am not rushing you in any way, shape or form, but do you have any idea at all when we might see the ROTJ script being final, whether it be a few days, a month, whatever?

Thanks man just want to keep these together, but if it is going to be a pretty long time yet then I can slow down a bit on finishing these 2.

 Most likely a few months, Sorry.

-G

irn-bru's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

g-force ive recently watched your script version od Star Wars and wow its beautiful. Cant wait to see Empire and Jedi , are they available yet ? 

zee944's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

irn-bru said:

g-force ive recently watched your script version od Star Wars and wow its beautiful. Cant wait to see Empire and Jedi , are they available yet ?

 

Empire is available. Jedi isn't. But as you can see, he'll post it when it is finished, be patient.

Chewtobacca's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

Empire is not in the usual place.  As far as I know, it is still unavailable. 

ChainsawAsh's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

The script is available (I think, I could be wrong) for those who wish to use it to make their own disc, if I'm not mistaken.

Chewtobacca's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

Oh, I see.  I thought irn-bru meant a DVD release.  My mistake! 

Last edited on July 2, 2010 at 7:37 PM by Chewtobacca
msycamore's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

Thanks, g-force for all hard work you have put in to these scripts! I recently ran a few test clips from your latest scripts and the results was very impressive. The stabilization really make a huge difference.

I've wondered... is it possible to set the black level/gamma & tweak the color/hue for specific scenes within the Avisynth script? or do you have to set the same values for the whole film.

"In the future it will become easier for old negatives to become lost and be 'replaced' by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten." - George Lucas, 1988.

vbangle's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

g-force said:

 

 

dark_jedi said:

g-force, I am not rushing you in any way, shape or form, but do you have any idea at all when we might see the ROTJ script being final, whether it be a few days, a month, whatever?

Thanks man just want to keep these together, but if it is going to be a pretty long time yet then I can slow down a bit on finishing these 2.

 Most likely a few months, Sorry.

-G

G-Force hasn't even logged in since July. Anybody know how to get in touch with him?

If so please pass along our well wishes and let him know he's missed.

I love everybody. Lets all smoke some reefer and chill. Hug and kisses for everybody.

Chewtobacca's avatar
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vbangle said:

G-Force hasn't even logged in since July. Anybody know how to get in touch with him?

If so please pass along our well wishes and let him know he's missed.

Vbangle said it perfectly.  It would be nice to see G-Force posting again.

Pericles77's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

Could someone please suggest how I might implement g-force's script for ANH, using DVD Rebuilder? Would I simply copy and paste the script into its filter editor? If yes, since I'm using DVD Rebuilder's "Convert from LB 4:3 to 16:9" option, would I exclude the following from the script?

########## resize to 16x9 AR, remove sides, add borders
Spline16Resize(728,388).Crop(8,10,-4,-14,align=true).AddBorders(2,58,2,58)

Are there any other changes to the script that should be made if using it with DVD Rebuilder? Please advise.

Thank you kindly in advance.

 

 

Darth Editous' avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

Just a quick suggestion, and one I've made before - if you're planning on viewing this on any kind of modern display (i.e. flat screen TV), you'd be better off not resizing - certainly not with spline16resize or anything similar. Your TV will do a much better job of resizing.

DE

Pericles77's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

I'm curious as to why the ANH script contains the following:

episode==5 ? last.Trim(0,92103)++orig.Trim(92104,93601)++last.Trim(93602,0) : last

 

Also, why does it have the ROTJ subs? If I (obviously) don't want that in ANH, would I delete the following from the script?

########## subtitle
episode==4 ? ANH(last) : episode==6 ? ROTJ(last) : last



#######################################################################################
Function ROTJ(clip input)
{input

f     = "Franklin Gothic Medium Cond"
f_col = $EEEEEE
f_wid = 9
f_pos = 465
f_siz = 36

Subtitle ("There will be no bargain.",
\ -1,f_pos,14382,14476,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("I will not give up my favorite decoration.",
\ -1,f_pos,14538,14706,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("I like Captain Solo where he is.",
\ -1,f_pos,14741,14824,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("I have come for the bounty on this Wookiee.",
\ -1,f_pos,20524,20626,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("At last we have the mighty Chewbacca.",
\ -1,f_pos,20774,20886,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("I want fifty thousand. No less.",
\ -1,f_pos,21502,21553,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("This bounty hunter is my kind of scum...",
\ -1,f_pos,22554,22663,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("...fearless and inventive.",
\ -1,f_pos,22685,22753,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("It's too late for that, Solo.",
\ -1,f_pos,28765,28856,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("You may have been a good smuggler...",
\ -1,f_pos,28857,28972,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("...but now you're Bantha fodder.",
\ -1,f_pos,28973,29058,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("Take him away.",
\ -1,f_pos,29224,29273,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("Bring her to me.",
\ -1,f_pos,29449,29503,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("I'm sure.",
\ -1,f_pos,29750,29796,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("I told you not to admit him.",
\ -1,f_pos,33466,33568,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("He must be allowed to speak.",
\ -1,f_pos,33615,33684,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("You weak-minded fool!",
\ -1,f_pos,33703,33774,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("He's using an old Jedi mind trick.",
\ -1,f_pos,33821,33927,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("Your mind powers will not work on me, boy.",
\ -1,f_pos,34154,34280,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("There will be no bargain, young Jedi.",
\ -1,f_pos,34685,34795,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("I shall enjoy watching you die.",
\ -1,f_pos,34824,34910,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("Bring me Solo and the Wookiee.",
\ -1,f_pos,39727,39816,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("They will all suffer for this outrage.",
\ -1,f_pos,39817,39920,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("Soon you will learn to appreciate me.",
\ -1,f_pos,43151,43304,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("Move him into position.",
\ -1,f_pos,45220,45288,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)
Subtitle ("Put him in.",
\ -1,f_pos,45866,45922,f,f_siz,f_col,font_width=f_wid)

Return(last)
}

zee944's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

Pericles77 said:

I'm curious as to why the ANH script contains the following:

episode==5 ? last.Trim(0,92103)++orig.Trim(92104,93601)++last.Trim(93602,0) : last

 

Also, why does it have the ROTJ subs? If I (obviously) don't want that in ANH, would I delete the following from the script?

 

No need to delete the ROTJ subs. They won't appear on ANH, that's what 'episode' variable controls. But if you're still worried, get VirtualDub, and open up the .avs script with that and you'll see.


Also, try to avoid DVDRebuilder's own resizing, and use g-force's as it is. Encode it as a 16:9 movie, no LB to 16:9 conversion.

irn-bru's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

Chewtobacca said:

Oh, I see.  I thought irn-bru meant a DVD release.  My mistake! 

 Sorry lads, i did meen a dvd release.

Chewtobacca's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

irn-bru said:

Chewtobacca said:

Oh, I see.  I thought irn-bru meant a DVD release.  My mistake! 

 Sorry lads, i did meen a dvd release.

As far as the new scripts go, it is still just G-Force's ANH.

Darth Editous' avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

Not sure if I've ever mentioned this before (because to be honest I've not looked over the script in detail) but this line:

Spline16Resize(728,388).Crop(8,14,-6,-10,align=true).AddBorders(3,58,3,58)


rings another "alarm" bell, aside from my argument against resizing to anamorphic.

Any compliant DVD player shouldn't show the 8 pixels (NTSC) or 9 pixels (PAL) at left and right, because that part of the video is reserved as "nominal analogue blanking", so you can avoid the horizontal resizing altogether - or was this written with NAB in mind, and gets rid of more vignetting...

If your DVD player/display isn't compliant, you can always just crop to 704 pixels wide, because this is also DVD-valid.

DE

Chewtobacca's avatar
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How would you change that line of code, DE?  I was thinking of giving the ESB script a go, and I wondered about that too.

Doctor M's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

I agree, I'm not sure I would crop the left/right.  We aren't building DivX here, most DVDs contain up to about 8 black lines on each side.

Since 96 lines are cropped top/bottom at the start of the script, I would suggest:

Spline36Resize(720,384).Crop(0,14,0,-10).Addborders(0,90,0,90)

THIS IS A GUESS.  I do not currently have the discs ripped to inspect the actually video for the second cropping (which is a weird decision...  Why isn't the cropping done once... or before the resizing for that matter?)

Btw, Spline36 provides better and sharper upscale quality than Spine16 without adding ringing and without any apparent speed impact.

There is also Spline64, but I've heard arguments that it isn't as good as 36.

 

(cough)Edit: (cough) to addborders...

Last edited on August 27, 2010 at 8:14 PM by Doctor M
Dr. M

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Chewtobacca's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

I only use Splinexx for downsizing.  (I find Spline16 faster than Spline36, but perhaps that is just my perception.)  I use Lanczos3 for upscaling.  Is that not what we are doing here?   I thought the recommendation was that it was that way round, but perhaps I am wrong.

Personally, I would crop eight pixels from the left and eight pixels from the right and author a 704x480 DVD, but I suppose it is just preference.  I have done this numerous times recently and the result has always played perfectly.  I have even come across commercial DVDs that are 704x480.

 

msycamore's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

My knowledge in this area isn't really good, but I think g-force did it to get rid of the bad discoloration etc. at the edge of the frame in the Gout telecine.

Great to know that modern displays are better at resizing than before, I still got a CRT TV so that is news to me.

"In the future it will become easier for old negatives to become lost and be 'replaced' by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten." - George Lucas, 1988.

vbangle's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

It sounds like we need g-force to settle this. G-Force, what say you?

I love everybody. Lets all smoke some reefer and chill. Hug and kisses for everybody.

Doctor M's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

I used to only use Lanczos4 for upscaling as well, but it can produce a ringing effect.  AviSynth added spline because it produces similar quality without the artifacts.

Dr. M

I think he said, 'death rabbits.'
Chewtobacca's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

Thanks, Doctor M. 

I am really interested in whether this latest version of the script takes NAB into account, as I am almost ready to encode with it.  One option might be to make a non-anamorphic MKV or AVI with the script that would automatically be resized on playback.

Last edited on August 29, 2010 at 5:31 PM by Chewtobacca
Doctor M's avatar
RE: GOUT image stabilization

Chewtobacca said:

Thanks, Doctor M. 

I am really interested in whether this latest version of the script takes NAB into account, as I am almost ready to encode with it.  One option might be to make a non-anamorphic MKV or AVI with the script that would automatically be resized on playback.

Feeling stupid, but what is NAB?

I think you'd want an anamorphic MKV if you are resizing it anyway during playback.

Dr. M

I think he said, 'death rabbits.'
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