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Shimraa's avatar
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you know i was thinking today, this is a starwars site with hundreds of SW fans on it, WHY DOES NO ONE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE EU, all i see nowadays in the same all arguements and same old shit about the movies, expand your SW universe people get out there and start reading. there are lots of books out there that are jsut fantastic, the thrawn trilogy, the han solo books and the New Jedi Order. you know the only reason i really became a big SW fan was cause of the New Jedi order, and i still like those books more then some of the movies. they encompase an entire war that makes the rebellion look like a walk in the park. the NJO is what the clone wars should have been.
Cable-X1's avatar
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I used to be somewhat into the EU, but it was when Lucas said that it doesn't exist to him when he wrote the prequels. After that, I was like...why bother? I don't want to spend time and money reading stuff that doesn't have any relevance to the films. If he just told the people who run the EU to avoid the prequel period until he was done with the movies, then there wouldn't be this continuity or canon issues and everyone would be happy. Sure there are small problems, but I can live with those....no fictional universe is perfect.

Lucas saying that was the kiss of death for the EU with me. Wouldn't bother at all even if I did like the PT. The only SW stuff I continue to get is the video games and they aren't entirely EU. I love my Star Wars games.....at least when they properly finish them.
Shimraa's avatar
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Originally posted by: battlewars
dude i was mad anout eu befor i knew it was called eu. its just when lucas began contradicting it in the prequels that i got turned off.

the last books i read were the first yuhzan vong book and darth maul shadow hunter, and they were both better than the lame ass prequels!

i just dont care much about star wars anymore, espescially now since the movies are over with and that they sucked hairy monkey balls, which proved lucas isnt a great story teller, but in fact, an incredibly lame one! the emperor has no clothes type of thing


which NJO book did you get to man, the series started slow but it really picks up later on
Kam's avatar
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Actually he said in an interview that he considers EU canon.
Especially the part about Boba Fett escaping teh sSarlacc pit an dthat he planned on putting a scene of him escaping into teh Special Edition
Fine, mister Lucas, while you're at it why dont you replace Lando with will smith?
kev's avatar
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How are they considered canon, Did Lucas ever mention it
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Mr Bungle's avatar
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
For instance, they're even attemptuing to keep some of that weird Marvel Comics stuff from the 80's in continuity.


I thought the 80s Marvel Comics were cool and loved them as a kid and some of the stories were not that bad and actually quite good.

Those and Splinter are the only "EU" if it they could and would be classified as such, I have ever read, I have never been bothered at all, with all the other stuff really, it seemed to me I would rather want to use my imagination if I wanted to, rather than read a story which I felt wasnt fully endorsed by Lucas.
skyman8081's avatar
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And now, the expanded universe drinking game!

TAKE A SIP IF...

*Characters from the movies don't act like themselves
*Luke makes a stupid decision
*Luke ignites his lightsaber with a snap-hiss
*Luke stretches out to the Force
*Luke lifts R2-D2 not knowing about the latter's leg rockets
*Wedge Antilles suits actions to words
*Stars burst into starlines
*An incompetent Imperial commander makes a critical blunder
*Kevin J. Anderson assrapes a character or plotline
*The rebels win a battle they never would be able to win
*Somebody says "I got a bad feeling about this"
*Han Solo thinks or says anything bad about C3P0
*There is no reference to the Clone Wars
*Han has a nostalgic memory
*Leia mentions remembering her mother
*Lando flirts
*Mara has a flashback to her time as the Emperor's Hand
*A large dangerous imperial taskforce capable of endangering the galaxy is less than 5 ships. (Such as 4 obsolete ISD's from the maw)
*The New Republic Defense Force, instead of sending a huge fleet with enough firepower to crack open a planet, sends a 'taskforce' that it has to scrape the bottom of the barrel to put together.
*The Empire which said NRDF is supposed to have eliminated by now as a serious contender for title of 'Ruler of the Galaxy' makes a play for Galactic domination....somehow....again.
*The New Republic faces an Extra-Galactic invasion and instead of responding, simply cuts off all news of the event and pretends it isn't happening, until the enemy fleet reaches the expansion region. And THEN it starts debating a POLITICAL response.

TAKE A DRINK IF...

*Wedge gets sent on an Intelligence mission
*Someone says something dryly
*Luke portrays abilities never seen before
*An insanely powerful Jedi threatens the galaxy
*The Evil Overlord has spent lots of time on finding the one thing that will make Luke's abilities with the Force useless in solving the Galaxy-threatening plot.
*Stormtroopers are revered as a horribly elite group of shock troops...then taken down with absurd ease by a bunch of flyboys.
*A bunch of insects on a couple of planets somehow become a deadly threat to the Galaxy...and the NR can't get any heavy ships to deal with the threat for WEEKS.
*Take a second gulp if the book introduces some uber wanked out Sith with powers completely foreign to any Sith before.
*Take a third gulp if said Sith is easily able to fight Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade Skywalker, the two most senior Jedi with decades of HTH combat experience against the 'outside the force' Vong, as well as absurd amounts of expereince against Dark Jedi, Sith and other general 'bad guys', to a standstill. Easily.

CHUG YOUR WHOLE DRINK DOWN IF...

*Grand Admiral Thrawn makes a gigantic leap of logic
*Grand Admiral Thrawn makes a mistake
*Tim Zahn completely retcons several books worth of lame, stupid plotlines in a masterfully-weaved tapestry of logic
*A Rebel Officer defects or is charged with Treason
*Borsk Feyla does not appear as a evil moron
*The Empire does not have a genius in command or a secret superweapon
*Somebody mentions a Dark Jedi Rebellion
*A major fleet battle involves less than a dozen capital ships.
*The New Republic responds to a military situation in a competent and rapid way that shows it is worthy to govern the Galaxy.
*The Empire is portrayed as a clearly benign and beneficial influence on a planet or region of space compared to the mess the OR made of it.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabris, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.

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Klingon_Jedi's avatar
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Amusing list Skyman, though a tad out of context.

The only reason I haven't really discussed the EU, is that I'm currently reading other books. I'm on Balance Point in the NJO(which I started when it did). My personal favorites are the works of Zahn and Stackpole.

Currently I'm reading the Moble Suit Gundam novel trilogy. Before that, it was Disney War(which certain events key to it having changed, it kind of pushed me out of it). Then, who knows.

I do consider them in my own canon. At least, the stuff I still remember. I've been reading them since I was 9. So some's a bit foggy.


Made for IE Forum's Episode III theme month - May 2005.

Darth Chaltab's avatar
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I'm just currently waiting on the final book of the Dark Nest Trilogy to come out.

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Shimraa's avatar
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I'm just currently waiting on the final book of the Dark Nest Trilogy to come out.


quote yeah its been pretty good so far, both books started out dry but really picked up at the ends, what do you think is going to happen.
I heard a rumor somewhere that jacen starts to follow the same path anakin did, anakin skywalker.


and yeah i am really looking forward to that too, its been refered to so much its going to be cool seeing how it all fits in. you know one thing that i think the EU should do is start incoperating vergere's character from the NJO into the PT so that we can see where exactly all her beleifs come from, shes refered to in rogue planet but thats about it. it would be really cool to compare her and see how her character changed.
TheSessler's avatar
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I'm taking a break from SW right now and reading Bernard Cornwell's Sharpe Series.
"I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them during the long winter evenings."
Shimraa's avatar
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so for those of you waiting for books what do you think is going to happen next.

whats going to happen in the dark nest trilogy, how is it going to end.

how it the outward bound project going to go.
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