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Doctor M's avatar
DVD+R DL's

I'm still working through a large quantity of Memorex DVD+R DL's that I picked up (for a song) a while back.

I will be the first to say they are crap.  I burn at the lowest speed I can and still have about a 50% failure rate (or in some cases the disc won't spin up every time in the drive that burned it).

I'm going to be buying some Verbatims soon since that definitely appears the way to go.

While I don't care about them being printable, I've seen that there are DataLifePlus and standard.

Are both considered good, or is it worth the premium on the already premium price to go with the DLP discs?

Last edited on October 28, 2010 at 7:30 PM by Doctor M
Dr. M

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ChainsawAsh's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

Any type of Verbatim DVD+R DL's are a good bet.  I believe there's one factory that makes Verbatim discs that are sub-par, but I've never gotten a batch - I've always had a near-100% success rate with Verbatim discs.

Chewtobacca's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

The Singapore plant is the best; the plants in Taiwan and India are not as good.  I think that Datalifeplus discs have at times been outsourced so I suppose it depends.   (Aren't Datelifeplus discs being phased out anyway?)

In my personal experience, discs from Singapore are great, discs from Taiwan are generally fine, and discs from India are awful and are a waste of space.  I have had discs from Singapore that have had various kinds of packaging and labelling  but have seemed the same in terms of quality.  Basically, I would suppose that if the discs are marked "made in Singapore" whatever else is on the packaging/labelling doesn't matter.  (I cannot give you a technical answer though.)

Doctor M's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

Good info.

SuperMediaStore actually shows the manufacturing country on their site.  They're out of stock now, but they normally carry the Singapore discs.

Dr. M

I think he said, 'death rabbits.'
none's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

Sounds stupid but try blowing out the burner, had a similar problem where started getting coasters then errors where it wouldn't even start writing.  Even though it was the same batch of discs.  reversed the vacuum on it, and it's back to normal.

Doctor M's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

Sorry to revive a dead thread, but I wanted to let you all know this worked out great.

I was getting a 50-75% failure rate on Memorex blanks.

I've burned a half dozen or more Verbatims so far without a single bad disc.

Verbatims may cost more up front, but they are cheaper in what you don't throw away.  I can't believe Memorex hasn't been sued over this.

Thanks again for the advice. (Btw, I had a bunch of Office Depot store credit and a coupon and used it to buy more Verbatims recently.  OD's were from the Singapore plant as well.)

Dr. M

I think he said, 'death rabbits.'
dark_jedi's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

I won't burn anything but Verbatims for DL's, but SL's, Tayo Yudens all the way, and Verbatims for my BD blanks as well.

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TV's Frink's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

Have you had trouble with Verbatim SL's?

dark_jedi's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

TV's Frink said:

Have you had trouble with Verbatim SL's?

Actually I have never used them, only because every single thing I ever read, or heard from fellow members, and Friends, is the Tayo Yuden SL DVDr's are the best hands down, I have burned well over a 1000 TY's and seriously, I can't remember if I ever had a bad burn, plus, there SHINY!

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Doctor M's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's
I'm pretty sure Taiyo Yuden is still the best for single layers. (I think I heard somewhere TY manufactures SL's for Verbatim).
Dr. M

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TV's Frink's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

I've never had a bad Verbatim SL burn but I certainly have with Memorex!

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

Memorex is bad all around.  Even their lightscribe won't hold an image.

From what I've read lately on the various innernets, for SL Taiyo Yuden is the way to go, but they aren't as reliable for DL.  Verbatim is king of DL.  This is all subject to change on a moment-by-moment basis, of course.  As for myself, I've never burned a TY or VB coaster.  Memorex, however, is another story.

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dark_jedi's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

From what I've read lately on the various innernets, for SL Taiyo Yuden is the way to go, but they aren't as reliable for DL.

Tayo Yuden does not even make DVD+R DL's, I have read that they did/do make DVD-R DL's though, but I don't use those, only +R's.

Last edited on March 24, 2011 at 11:16 PM by dark_jedi

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Jetrell Fo's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

Doctor M said:

I'm pretty sure Taiyo Yuden is still the best for single layers. (I think I heard somewhere TY manufactures SL's for Verbatim).

I've used the JVC DL's made in Japan...I believe Taiyo Yuden makes them, and I've never had issue with any of them.

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kaine23's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

Finally going to get a dual layer burner and some discs on Amazon. Going Verbatim for discs and getting the Lite-On Lightscribe dual layer drive on Amazon.

Last edited on March 31, 2011 at 2:28 PM by kaine23
kaine23's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

How are Sony DL discs?

dark_jedi's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

kaine23 said:

How are Sony DL discs?

Why wouldn't you use what everyone recommends? Verbatim DL's made in Singapore are what you want to use hands down.

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ChainsawAsh's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

He's just asking.  Maybe he saw some Sony discs at the store, and wants to know if it's worth it to wait for the Verbatims in the mail or if the Sony's are good enough.  I know there isn't a single store in my hometown that sells Verbatim DL blanks, I had to get them shipped.

dark_jedi's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

ChainsawAsh said:

He's just asking.  Maybe he saw some Sony discs at the store, and wants to know if it's worth it to wait for the Verbatims in the mail or if the Sony's are good enough.  I know there isn't a single store in my hometown that sells Verbatim DL blanks, I had to get them shipped.

I know he is just asking CA, and I am just answering, I have tried other brands and they just DO NOT hold up, and you burn a lot of coasters, so if you do not want to wait for a brand that is proven as CA put it, then try it, but keep in mind, if it does burn OK, check the disc 6-12 months from now and see if it plays, it is not just the burn, it is also how well they last.

Last edited on April 3, 2011 at 7:51 PM by dark_jedi

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none's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

My experience with SONY DL is that they work fine.  A bunch came with the drive so they were the first I used and for couple years they all were fine.  Then one day they stopped being recognized when burning.  Switched to Memorex for a time, then they failed.  Tried a couple other brands as well.  Turns out it was not a disc issue it was the drive getting dusty.  Once blown out everything worked as usual.  Have mailed and handed out over 100 DL discs and haven't gotten back any 'it doesn't play anywhere' comments.  But these experiences are relatively meaningless since i'm only certain of 10% of people who didn't have a problem, the other 90% never heard back from!

(and i see i've told this story earlier in the thread, knew it sounded familiar...)

Jetrell Fo's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

With the status of any economy Verbatim discs could be quite a stretch for some people who are just starting out. 

 

Last edited on April 4, 2011 at 3:58 AM by Jetrell Fo
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kaine23's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

dark_jedi said:

kaine23 said:

How are Sony DL discs?

Why wouldn't you use what everyone recommends? Verbatim DL's made in Singapore are what you want to use hands down.

I am just asking since I noticed we have them at he store i work at, so was wondering how they held up. Been nice to just get them in person without ordering online if that was possible.

Doctor M's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

A bit off topic, but I have a hole in my media knowledge when it comes to RW discs.

Do you all use RW  Verbatims too?  Heck I don't even know if + or - RW's are better. 

Dr. M

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ChainsawAsh's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

I've never used RW's, personally.

TV's Frink's avatar
RE: DVD+R DL's

I was going to ask why someone would use RW's these days.

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