borisanddoris said:

-I haven't heard the DTS cinema discs on my system for ID4, but the LD seems awfully faithful, better than the AC3 Laserdisc.  I've yet to hear it on Blu-ray, but if it was sourced from the DVDs mix, it won't be as good.  

-The DTS trailer attached to JP and other early DTS titles was a slightly shortened version of the one we are used to seeing.  We have the audio for it from the DTS discs of Jurassic Park, but no video exists anywhere.  It would be possible with some clever editing to re-create it with the DTS trailer that appears on several DVDs.  Basically, the only difference is that after THE DIGITAL EXPERIENCE blows up, the sound and image fade away into nothing after the explosion.  It's a neat effect and was awesome to see in front of JP last summer at a 35mm screening I attended.

I got the ID4, thanks Boris.  And you are correct about the original DTS trailer.  I have not found it on video anywhere, all we have is the audio.  I guess if someone had a JP print we could get it figured out.

:)

TServo2049 said:

When I suggested the Digital Experience trailer, I meant a preservation of the more familiar "stand-alone" version, from a cinema disc. Boris said he had some trailer discs, and I'd love to hear a perfect theatrically-accurate version (as opposed to one from LD or DVD).

Someone is offering a 35mm trailer lot that includes a DTS trailer. It would indeed be cool to have a 35mm scan to sync up with the audio, so we can finally have a high-def version of the trailer.

So this is not it? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaXSa1ZXOVw

God I wish we got SDDS at home or at least more SDDS8 derived soundtracks

Neither of those are the ORIGINAL version unfortunately.  The original fades away after the disc explodes, and never has the "THIS THEATRE FEATURES" or the "DTS DIGITAL SOUND" logo.  

With our audio, and some clever editing though, we could "re-create" it fairly easily.

I don't think I have the stems from the original rip of JP, but if I do, I'll up a copy of what it sounds like.  If not, I'll just got back to the original discs and pull a copy off.  Hopefully within the next day or so.

I sent some PMs with a little treat.

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dvdmike said:

captainsolo said:

I think The Matrix is in a similar situation with other Warner 90's titles such as the later Batman films. Dolby and DTS releases theatrically, Dolby on LD, and for the new DVD/BDs a new 5.1 mix made from master files but re-EQd and mixed for modern homes and soundbars. And put into Dolby TrueHD.

So in essence The Matrix hasn't been heard in DTS since 1999.

I thank those on the lookout for Goldeneye and TND.

I'd like to request the DTS for The World Is Not Enough (may have had a ES  presentation) and for Batman Forever.

 

There was no Batman Forever DTS mix, Just SDDS and Dolby

God I wish we could get SDDS 8 mixes 

Apparently only Batman & Robin got the DTS treatment.  Now, one could make their own DTS mix with the proper audio and software but it wouldn't be cinema DTS.

Jetrell Fo said:

dvdmike said:

captainsolo said:

I think The Matrix is in a similar situation with other Warner 90's titles such as the later Batman films. Dolby and DTS releases theatrically, Dolby on LD, and for the new DVD/BDs a new 5.1 mix made from master files but re-EQd and mixed for modern homes and soundbars. And put into Dolby TrueHD.

So in essence The Matrix hasn't been heard in DTS since 1999.

I thank those on the lookout for Goldeneye and TND.

I'd like to request the DTS for The World Is Not Enough (may have had a ES  presentation) and for Batman Forever.

 

There was no Batman Forever DTS mix, Just SDDS and Dolby

God I wish we could get SDDS 8 mixes 

Apparently only Batman & Robin got the DTS treatment.  Now, one could make their own DTS mix with the proper audio and software but it wouldn't be cinema DTS.

It had SDDS we need to find a way to rip that!

dvdmike said:

Jetrell Fo said:

dvdmike said:

captainsolo said:

I think The Matrix is in a similar situation with other Warner 90's titles such as the later Batman films. Dolby and DTS releases theatrically, Dolby on LD, and for the new DVD/BDs a new 5.1 mix made from master files but re-EQd and mixed for modern homes and soundbars. And put into Dolby TrueHD.

So in essence The Matrix hasn't been heard in DTS since 1999.

I thank those on the lookout for Goldeneye and TND.

I'd like to request the DTS for The World Is Not Enough (may have had a ES  presentation) and for Batman Forever.

 

There was no Batman Forever DTS mix, Just SDDS and Dolby

God I wish we could get SDDS 8 mixes 

Apparently only Batman & Robin got the DTS treatment.  Now, one could make their own DTS mix with the proper audio and software but it wouldn't be cinema DTS.

It had SDDS we need to find a way to rip that!

As for SDDS, I have no knowledge on if it's even possible to rip and convert to something useable for educational purposes.  I haven't seen anything available but I haven't really looked either.  I'm a DTS-head.  LOL

:)

I love sdds 8 when it worked it was near unbeatable

If anyone had the prints with SDDS on it I'd suspect they would be able to record it .... but it would then have to be processed to SDDS specs.  Right now I'm working on converting the audio reels I have to .wav to prepare them for future use in projects.

Here is a list of SDDS movies .....

http://www.sdds.com/news_movies.cfm?showfilms=M

Ah silly me, I forgot DTS was only on B&R. Agreed SDDS would be killer but likely a pain to do from scanning prints to converting the format.

I WISH someone would want to scan my 35mm trailer for TPM so we could get some color timing ideas and marry the DTS audio to the trailer for a real nice bonus.

Event Horizon and Waterworld have been found.

:)

Too bad we can't find some sort of mechanized way to rip and patch the reels together.  That'd make getting these out a lot easier.

Jetrell Fo said:

Event Horizon and Waterworld have been found.

:)

:O I am down for both!

borisanddoris said:

Too bad we can't find some sort of mechanized way to rip and patch the reels together.  That'd make getting these out a lot easier.

I can extract the reels with an LFE channel included but marrying the reels together the way they are supposed to be heard is what's hard. 

Having a way of putting them together without losing anything would make it far easier to release as I've got a nice little collection of discs going since you and Eldonante inspired me ......  :)

Jetrell Fo said:

dvdmike said:

captainsolo said:

I think The Matrix is in a similar situation with other Warner 90's titles such as the later Batman films. Dolby and DTS releases theatrically, Dolby on LD, and for the new DVD/BDs a new 5.1 mix made from master files but re-EQd and mixed for modern homes and soundbars. And put into Dolby TrueHD.

So in essence The Matrix hasn't been heard in DTS since 1999.

I thank those on the lookout for Goldeneye and TND.

I'd like to request the DTS for The World Is Not Enough (may have had a ES  presentation) and for Batman Forever.

 

There was no Batman Forever DTS mix, Just SDDS and Dolby

God I wish we could get SDDS 8 mixes 

Apparently only Batman & Robin got the DTS treatment.  Now, one could make their own DTS mix with the proper audio and software but it wouldn't be cinema DTS.

All three Nolan Films were released in DTS.  I wish the first 2 got DTS-HD MA audio on the blu rays only the third film is up to snuff.  The first film Begins is one of the worst transfers on BD needs an update.

I mean even if any one has the Batman Begins discs they would be no way to get the audio off of them kind of like Revenge of the Sith.

I mean the Cinema Discs not the Blu rays that is easily done.

Jetrell Fo said:

Event Horizon and Waterworld have been found.

:)

your on my xmas card list :)

skyjedi2005 said:

All three Nolan Films were released in DTS.  I wish the first 2 got DTS-HD MA audio on the blu rays only the third film is up to snuff.  The first film Begins is one of the worst transfers on BD needs an update.

I mean even if any one has the Batman Begins discs they would be no way to get the audio off of them kind of like Revenge of the Sith.

I mean the Cinema Discs not the Blu rays that is easily done.

ROTS has been decoded.  As for the Nolan films, I will add them to the list.

:)

bigrob said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Event Horizon and Waterworld have been found.

:)

 

your on my xmas card list :)

Thanks.  It's not an easy task to find some of these but the hunt can be fun.

:)