Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

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ralphdnak's avatar
Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

I've always been confused about the colors of Luke and Obi Ban's lightsabers in the Original Trilogy.  

Are the almost cyan colors of the lightsabers in GOUT Star Wars accurate?  If so, why is the blue color darker in The Empire Strikes Back and the Revenge of the Jedi trailers?

timdiggerm's avatar
RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

I believe the facts are as follows:

1. the GOUT colors are really unsaturated, so what you're seeing on an untouched GOUT is a lot paler than what it was in theatres

2. the sabres in ESB and ROTJ-trailer were indeed darker than in the original Star Wars.

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RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

Luke's cyan lightsaber in SW has always been that way, as far as I know, and I suppose it can be chalked up to a colouring error. Obi-Wan's lightsaber, IMO, looks to be the same shade of blue as Luke's lightsaber in TESB.

Last edited on March 13, 2012 at 1:54 AM by DuracellEnergizer

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RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

All of the SW sabers can fluctuate a bit depending on which transfer you look at.

Simple, but because of the GOUT they look very faint when not watching on an old CRT. Most every transfer I've ever seen has them look slightly different in some way.

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negative1's avatar
RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

here's one shot of the saber when luke

is in ben's hut:

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it's consistent through the reels.

 

later

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Last edited on March 15, 2012 at 2:19 AM by negative1

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msycamore's avatar
RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

negative1's avatar
RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

more shots of the saber

from the luke training sequence here:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Cropping-the-Original-Trilogy-35mm-vs-dvd-gout/post/570391/#TopicPost570391

 

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TServo2049's avatar
RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

It's nice to see definitive proof that Luke's saber was blue. Since the scene looks a little too cold on that print, it may have been a little more cyan, but it was definitely not the shade seen in those JSC screenshots. Not aqua, not seafoam, and definitely not green or white.

How does it show up in your Technicolor scans, Harmy? Does your latest DeEd workprint reflect those?

Last edited on March 16, 2012 at 5:50 PM by TServo2049
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RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

It definitely isn't white, it's always blue and all the blue sabres in SW seem a little less cyan than on the GOUT but more so than ESB and the Revenge trailer.

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pittrek's avatar
RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

That's of course too on the bluray :-)

msycamore's avatar
RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

Thanks for posting, none. Excellent article, I found this interesting;

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The lime green is something you definitely see traces of in the Technidisc LD as well, haven't really given it a thought before but it's seen in various behind the scenes pics of the corridor set, but this lime green quote is interesting as I was actually under the impression it was a pale blue, the wall panels and doorframes are clearly white but the rest is in a different shade as you can see. How all this appeared when photographed and ultimately timed is something different though.

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negative1's avatar
RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

interesting article.

 

also noted that those shots weren't

used, and from another angle.

the outfits look like a different color (lighting?)

here's ours:

 

the closest to the original shot:

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the explosion from the left side:

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the closest shot to the last,

none of the rebels fall over though,

and you can't really see the debris

on the ground:

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msycamore's avatar
RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

Yes, those are outtakes. Not sure where they first appeared but I think it was in the documentary Empire of Dreams.

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Dunedain's avatar
RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

Yeah, Luke's lightsaber was always a pure cool shade of blue, any cyan appearance must be home video transfer errors.

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msycamore's avatar
RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

negative1 said:

the outfits look like a different color (lighting?)

Missed this thought of yours, if you refer to the blue color of their shirts, that's how they are supposed to look, they shouldn't be gray but they do appear that way sometimes in many early transfers.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

negative1's avatar
RE: Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors

msycamore said:

negative1 said:

the outfits look like a different color (lighting?)

Missed this thought of yours, if you refer to the blue color of their shirts, that's how they are supposed to look, they shouldn't be gray but they do appear that way sometimes in many early transfers.

hmm. interesting.

i think in our version, they're locked into

a brownish looking color. will make a note

of it.

 

later

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